APBA Annual Meeting Agenda

[hshawwpba]

I agree with Mike the coarse lay out is done based on the lake/river lay out and standarizing of size and dimention will not work across the country. Remeber there are races held everywhere with different issues and requirements from city or park rules that will require special lay outs to meeting distance rules.
Please don't make a 1 fits alll rule.

[hshawwpba]

Start rule

I propose all 4 outboard catagories ask the Race Management Committee to reinstate the old start rule where the timing starts when the first legal boat crosses the starting line.

Here Here this is the best Idea yet, the Board was lead done primrose path by someone who has no clue how important the clock is in setting records.
If they wish to agian stay with this rediculas rule ( which I see no ther sport of motor racing has) then grandfather all the records and let's start over setting records based on this disadvantage.
Ask yourself if you have ever seen a car race or boat qualifing session run where they start the clock before the car/boat reach the starting line?
How about a sporting event, do they start the clock before the ball or puck is put in play????
Now thoink about the current start rule and justify it!
Let's change it back please!

[bill boyes]

The race should start when the first legal boat crosses the start line. This has the most significance in record setting. How much sense does it make to start the time 1 to 2 seconds before the first legal boat crossses the start line? That's not measuring the true speed of that boat. If we're going to use a time other than when the first legal boat crosses, why not use the time from when the white flag flies, or the green flag for that matter. Anything other than when the first boat starts, is purely arbitrary and has nothing to do with the quickness of that particular race.

A record course is still a Boat race. Now I'am starting to hear the real reason those favor the old way. It is for setting records RIGHT? If there is another reason tell me please.

[AOFoffice]

this rediculas rule ( which I see no ther sport of motor racing has) then grandfather all the records and let's start over setting records based on this disadvantage.
Ask yourself if you have ever seen a car race or boat qualifing session run where they start the clock before the car/boat reach the starting line?
How about a sporting event, do they start the clock before the ball or puck is put in play????
Now thoink about the current start rule and justify it!
Let's change it back please!

Howard,
But isn't the difference that we call gun jumpers and other sports don't?
Also, I have "heard" of a judges stand in which once the picture was studied, the first boat, thought to be legal, was actually an inch over. What do you do then? The race should be restarted, correct? The boat was not a gun jumper btw. I will not mention any times or places, but all on the judges stand, including the referee, blatantly ignored the picture, just didn't tell anyone, and the race was not restarted, which by all legal rights, it should have been. How many times has this happened? In a field of spray this can happen very easily. Maybe we are getting confused with the record terminology. You set a record, but you actually don't set it on your boat, unless you are running a kilo. You are setting a record on the fastest race.
Having a running clock start is a different animal than a lot (most) other sports.
I would be all for changing the rule if we had a technological satisfactorly want (transponders, laser, etc) that would take the human element out of the start and make it more consistant across the board.
Connie

[AOFoffice]

PS.
I also think once the rule was changed, howver, that the records should have been restarted since we went to a new system.
A special place in the stats section of the rulebook could have been put aside as the old records were then forever, ten years, maybe twenty. That way no one was cheated.
Connie

[hydroracer25]

Hail, Hail to the always well thought out opinion of DHolt!

...and Connie.

Boat Racing is done with a clock start. Period! To win a Nationals, you better nail the starts, why should a record race be any different?

Howard, you bet the timing is critical to breaking a record. But, what if the scorer thinks that Boat 2 is the first legal boat, when in fact it was Boat 1 (1 and 2 being the order they crossed the line)?

Answer: Boat 1 gets an advantage and at 60mph you are traveling at 88 ft/sec. Do the math depending on how much time there is between Boat 1 and 2.

So why make it harder on our too few volunteer scorers? If we going to do that then let's make it so no region can have more records courses than any other region has in that given year (you'd have to apply at the beginning of year like a bid for the Nationals). Problem solved. This was sarcasm in case some didn't pick it up

Mark

[Bob Dunlap]

List of agenda items 44XS

Dave on your list of items: #4 shouldn't it read "would not show a performance" instead of: " These bearings (IKO) if compared would show a performance gain over the torrington and if inspected under current rules should be DQ'd as not being what is listed in the rule book".

[DougMc]

Yamato 202 D and E

Make the Yamato 202 D and E legal engines for CSH. They are already legal in APBA OSY, UIM OSY. AOF and NBRA.

[14-H]

Make the Yamato 202 D and E legal engines for CSH. They are already legal in APBA OSY, UIM OSY. AOF and NBRA.

What is the difference between these and the 102 or 302? EWH.

[Charlie Pater]

What is the difference between these and the 102 or 302? EWH.

The 202 is about 1 to 1.5 mph faster out of the box.

[AJennings]

Fuel

What about the fuel situation? What are we going to do about this?

AJennings

[DougMc]

What is the difference between these and the 102 or 302? EWH.

http://www.portagebaysystems.com/proweb/osy400.htm

[Howie Nichols]

Ft. Lauderdale Host Hotel

The host hotel (Wyndham) is still standing and has no damage to the facility.

Just thought you all might like to know that you still have a place to come and get your opinions heard.

Howie

PS Make sure your reservations are made for the convention both with APBA and the hotel early!! Info is posted on the APBA website under the Annual Meeting / HOC on the right side of the home page.

[14-H]

The 202 is about 1 to 1.5 mph faster out of the box.

Faster than what, the 102 or the 302? How can this be?

[14-H]

http://www.portagebaysystems.com/proweb/osy400.htm

So if it is 1-1.5 MPH faster out of the box, everyone in OSY 400 is using one, right?