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First, Beegle, i am not against rounded pickle tips, all of my boats except the older ones have have rounded tips, that covers about a 8 or 9 year span or so. It is pretty easy to do when you are building the boat new. To round them later is a PITA on a natural finished boat, but still doable. Oh, and yes, the pickle tips went through Mark Wheelers cockpit sides. No injuries as Mark was smart enough to jump forward upon impact. In my opinion, no amount of kevlar laminated onto the wood would have stopped penetration. Simple math really, mass will break the cockpit side off at the deck seam. Kevlar will then leave jagged edges for you to cut your exposed part on. We wear kevlar on our bodies though. I feel Mark would have been injured had this occured. As it happened, the boat absorbed the impact and dispersed the energy without a problem. With rounded tips, I feel Mark would have been driven out of the boat, as the rounded tips would have drove the inner combing into the opposite side. We will NEVER be able to manage risk to the point of no injuries.
For the record, Maybe the discussion should focus on how the saftey rules are implemented, not what they are. That is my main complaint, I thought my point was made previously. Obviously it was not.
Darren, the discussion about rub rails just fueled the fire for all the saftey rules that implemented without feedback from the membership. That is how the discussion got to rounded pickle tips.
Brad, I have been paying attention, why do you think I am raising my concerns ? I did not elect the current leadership at APBA, the board pickes the President... am I mistaken ? By all means, enlighten me. We as membership elect the commisioners for each region. They in turn elect a chairman for each category. We have little impact on the true decisions. Yes, we elect the board members, when was the last time that the largest outboard category in APBA had the majority of the board seats ? You might have to dig deep for that one.
Ever since the general racing rules were combined into one, the problems became clear. Each category is different enough to need different rules. It could be the mentality of the category members, or simply the need to define itself. I can honestly say I feel it is not working the way it is.
And for the record, I am NOT in favor of the saftey commision or committee, whatever it is called, to have the authority to implement a rule without first consulting the membership of the cargory it is affecting. And by that, I mean a vote, by ballot. APBA is preaching it is online now, set up a online voting tab on the website. Log in by your APBA number and a password. Sounds pretty simple to me. In addition, mail to any member who is not signed up online, a paper ballot.
First, Beegle, i am not against rounded pickle tips, all of my boats except the older ones have have rounded tips, that covers about a 8 or 9 year span or so. It is pretty easy to do when you are building the boat new. To round them later is a PITA on a natural finished boat, but still doable. Oh, and yes, the pickle tips went through Mark Wheelers cockpit sides. No injuries as Mark was smart enough to jump forward upon impact. In my opinion, no amount of kevlar laminated onto the wood would have stopped penetration. Simple math really, mass will break the cockpit side off at the deck seam. Kevlar will then leave jagged edges for you to cut your exposed part on. We wear kevlar on our bodies though. I feel Mark would have been injured had this occured. As it happened, the boat absorbed the impact and dispersed the energy without a problem. With rounded tips, I feel Mark would have been driven out of the boat, as the rounded tips would have drove the inner combing into the opposite side. We will NEVER be able to manage risk to the point of no injuries.
For the record, Maybe the discussion should focus on how the saftey rules are implemented, not what they are. That is my main complaint, I thought my point was made previously. Obviously it was not.
Darren, the discussion about rub rails just fueled the fire for all the saftey rules that implemented without feedback from the membership. That is how the discussion got to rounded pickle tips.
Brad, I have been paying attention, why do you think I am raising my concerns ? I did not elect the current leadership at APBA, the board pickes the President... am I mistaken ? By all means, enlighten me. We as membership elect the commisioners for each region. They in turn elect a chairman for each category. We have little impact on the true decisions. Yes, we elect the board members, when was the last time that the largest outboard category in APBA had the majority of the board seats ? You might have to dig deep for that one.
Ever since the general racing rules were combined into one, the problems became clear. Each category is different enough to need different rules. It could be the mentality of the category members, or simply the need to define itself. I can honestly say I feel it is not working the way it is.
And for the record, I am NOT in favor of the saftey commision or committee, whatever it is called, to have the authority to implement a rule without first consulting the membership of the cargory it is affecting. And by that, I mean a vote, by ballot. APBA is preaching it is online now, set up a online voting tab on the website. Log in by your APBA number and a password. Sounds pretty simple to me. In addition, mail to any member who is not signed up online, a paper ballot.
Keep your head down!!!!!
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