Tohatsu vs. Merc 44xs

[seanp3]

This is only for NEW purchases, correct?

Correct. if you buy a used motor from another racer you don't need to sign a waiver

[sadiemydog1]

Tohatsu

NBRA has no heigth restrictions in any class. Weigth 440 for the D Hydtro 490 for D run.
Art K

[raceright]

Pat: this is not correct. Bass Machines is following the law. ALL internal combustion engines are required to meet EPA Emissions limits unless they are produced for competition in which case EPA approval is required.

Keep forgetting about engines raced that are not built for competition just all mine were mfg. for competition and run menthanol, never heard anything about EPA from any of my dealers??? So I guess I'm both correct and incorrect.
Pat

[raceright]

Oh boy get the popcorn ready

Pass the popcorn NAAAAAAAAAAAA

Pat

[oldracer]

Epa?

Pat- You ALKIES just have to show EPA that you have been through rehab. Have you, your son and Jack attended and get your certificates.LOL
Ye Olde Desert Geezer Al

[m58rr50hydro]

Pass the popcorn NAAAAAAAAAAAA

Pat

Extra castor on mine please Pat!

[DougMc]

Keep forgetting about engines raced that are not built for competition just all mine were mfg. for competition and run menthanol, never heard anything about EPA from any of my dealers??? So I guess I'm both correct and incorrect.
Pat

Of course you would have a smart ass comment as usual where is Weaver to pile on? Now if this were a Pro thread or USTS thread and a Stocker posted some thing like that you and a few others would wine like little pansies and hold a board meeting to complain.

[David Weaver]

Silly Thread

Of course you would have a smart ass comment as usual where is Weaver to pile on? Now if this were a Pro thread or USTS thread and a Stocker posted some thing like that you and a few others would wine like little pansies and hold a board meeting to complain.

This is a SO class, so both engines must be evenly matched from the factory. Buy the least expensive or the one with the Koolest cowling. In theory, there is no advantage of one over the other. Right?

Keep supporting the individuals/companies that are providing you with engines to race!!

Why can't we all just get along?!?

Doug, awful grumpy for a Friday night!

[jeff55v]

Think of it as old vs. new...

In theory, there is no advantage of one over the other. Right?

Speedwise, there is arguably no advantage. But, one engine is a fairly new design. The other one is based on an engine designed... like, what 50 years ago?

Also, I think the Bass gearcase is a HUGE improvement in design over the Quicksilver lower unit.

[raceright]

Speedwise, there is arguably no advantage. But, one engine is a fairly new design. The other one is based on an engine designed... like, what 50 years ago?

Also, I think the Bass gearcase is a HUGE improvement in design over the Quicksilver lower unit.

One of the reason's I couldn't believe this is not a much larger class.
Pat

[T Chance]

I run Pro but I did have a D-Stock at one time that my son drove (55-H - it was that long ago). But if I were to have a D-Stock today I wouldn't even consider a Mercury, I'd be on the Phone to Sid, placing an order for a Bass/Tohatsu. Why? It's a new modern engine.

[mercguy]

One of the reason's I couldn't believe this is not a much larger class.
Pat

give it some time, it WILL be larger........

[raceright]

Pat: this is not correct. Bass Machines is following the law. ALL internal combustion engines are required to meet EPA Emissions limits unless they are produced for competition in which case EPA approval is required.

Ed
You and some of your buddies might or might not be surprised as to how little I know about what you guys race.
Let me first say if ya clamp it on I consider you a peer.

That said this question has no read between the lines
hidden agends just would like to know if any engines raced buy you guys is still in production buy it's original MFG.

Pat

Reason being as if I decide to help anyone in stock or modified this season would like to know what engines are still being made

[Fast Jack]

Race Motors

Hey Pat, The Tohatsu powerhead is currently in production but is not imported in to the US. The motor is carburated and only the EFI version is available in the states. All the powerhead parts are available at Tohatsu dealers. The tower and foot are made by Bass and are available. I am geting a new D stock Tohatsu this March. ( Bob Harrity is puting me in a new ride again this season) The 44xs Merc is Reproduced By Dave Scott in Canada. The powerhead parts are available from Mercury and Dave produces or provides the rest of the parts. Both motors are available and are something you can put on a boat and have ready to race in a day. Like The APBA J motor none are produced by their respsctive factories but are available because some dedicated people put the effort into their projects and make them available. With the supply of stock Yamatos available it looks like stock is on a good road, when the Sidewinder hits the water there will be about 10 classes with motors available.. Now if you need some one to help out I have a B mod project in the works that is suffering a shortage of cash !! and again Thanks for your support of My sons J class ride... Shawn

[randyrap]

Thanks to all that replied.

My next question is this ...

What would be the difference between a DSH hull being built for a Merc compared to one being built for a Tohatsu? Would there even be a difference?

Thanks ............ Randy