What your true cost of APBA membership

[hshawwpba]

Howard:

I think I get it now. You're pissed off because you spend your money to print the .PDF version of the Propeller and race sanctions/circulars. And in your usual delusional way, you think you can add that expense to the cost of your annual APBA membership.

Here's a clue for you. (I hope you're sitting down because this is going to blow you away.)

YOU DON'T HAVE TO PRINT THESE THINGS! (Yes, I am yelling.)

The idea of the .PDF is that it is an electronic archive that you can reference from any computer or mobile device. Tell me you print every e-mail message you receive, because honestly, it wouldnt surprise me.

It's time for you to quit stirring the pot for stirring's sake. If you have something intelligent to contribute; some new idea that could really gain traction and go somewhere; go ahead and stir away. I might even agree with you or come to your defense. (For what you see as my arrogance is really about the most open mind you will ever know.) But if your intent is to just raise hell just for fun, maybe you should just go away quietly.

Respectfully,

Wow! you need a hug I hope there is someone in your corner of the world that will not only hug you but buy you one of those expensive cups of coffee Big Don drinks!
OOPS wait you don't need anymore coffee, maybe a hot chocolate would be better.
Have a great day!
R10 # 1487

[mark5pa]

From a rookie perspective, when I was first pondering boat racing, I was a bit surprised at the APBA membership cost. Not a deal breaker, but more than WERA (motorcycle road race club) and SCCA (auto road race club), that I have participated in years past. This may be a stupid idea for APBA, but how about a discount membership fee for rookies? Just a few bucks off. Myself, for one, wasn't sure I could cut the mustard boat racing. But you all know, once you do it, you are hooked, then charge whatever!

[thepiranhabros]

Touché

Wow! you need a hug I hope there is someone in your corner of the world that will not only hug you but buy you one of those expensive cups of coffee Big Don drinks!
OOPS wait you don't need anymore coffee, maybe a hot chocolate would be better.
Have a great day!
R10 # 1487

Gah! Yet again, I have been skewered by your rapier wit!

Run along back to your village now, Howard, lest they declare you missing.

[Big Don]

Howard, here is a deal for you...

How about a constructive conversation instead of always trying to cut people and APBA down.

Everything is not right, membership is declining, insurance is to expensive, lots of us want our printed propeller magazine back, we know you want to know how much we are spending with Crowne (so do a lot more but we are not going to get it) does it make it right? No. But trying to get the answers on here by constantly ripping on all of us does no good.

Guess that means you need to go to Texas in January and try and get some answers.

[mdaspit]

Howard, here is a deal for you...

How about a constructive conversation instead of always trying to cut people and APBA down.

Everything is not right, membership is declining, insurance is to expensive, lots of us want our printed propeller magazine back, we know you want to know how much we are spending with Crowne (so do a lot more but we are not going to get it) does it make it right? No. But trying to get the answers on here by constantly ripping on all of us does no good.

Guess that means you need to go to Texas in January and try and get some answers.

Good post Big Don...

[26V]

Not really

Wow you drink expensive coffee but then spending is not an isue based on your past post supporting the APBA projects!

go to any dinner, fast food, pick your posion. they all cost more the 1 dollar for a cup of coffee. do that 5 days aweek and you have spent more for coffee then your APBA super license.

[Aussie Steve]

I make my own coffee I can't afford to spend money every day on take out coffee my wage isnt expendable i have to save money for my family and most of the people I work with do to .
That's why I budget for for all my memberships , APBA cost me the same as a few others I pay

[jeff55v]

I think it's wrong that Stock, Mod, and Pro are three separate categories. They should all be ONE catagory, with all the same already existing classes within it.
We shouldn't have to buy a super license to race the popular classes that most of us do.
And that's all I have to say about that.

[guedo499]

QUOTE=mark5pa;211033] This may be a stupid idea for APBA, but how about a discount membership fee for rookies? Just a few bucks off. Myself, for one, wasn't sure I could cut the mustard boat racing. But you all know, once you do it, you are hooked, then charge whatever![/QUOTE]

I REALLY like this idea. I was on the board of a Private Christian School where tuition was about $11,000 per year. The last year I was on the board, was about the time everybody seemed to not have $11k laying around anymore...

I researched how other private schools had been successful in enrolling kids in a down economy; not many solutions were out there. But when thinking about this out loud, I just applied what I would do in my own business when I'm dealing with repeat orders - cut down the cost of entry - I'll make my money back the next order.

So I proposed to the board that we cut tuition in half for first year students - that's a $5,500 break. Needless to say, I was not popular, but I pushed on with the idea. In the classroom, there's room for 20 students; if we only had 17 students in a classroom, adding one more student, even at half price, is a gain; our fixed costs were not affected. We discussed this for a few board meeting, but finally I won the board over and we approved the proposal.

When the information was presented the public, is was very well received and the program, to this day is still a success: it increased enrollment, brought back students that had to leave a few years earlier and second and third siblings were now able to also attend the school. Once they were now students, it was very unlikely that they would change schools in the near future.

This same process can be applied to APBA - once we get the newbies in, they aren't going away any time soon.

[hshawwpba]

Howard, here is a deal for you...

How about a constructive conversation instead of always trying to cut people and APBA down.

Everything is not right, membership is declining, insurance is to expensive, lots of us want our printed propeller magazine back, we know you want to know how much we are spending with Crowne (so do a lot more but we are not going to get it) does it make it right? No. But trying to get the answers on here by constantly ripping on all of us does no good.

Guess that means you need to go to Texas in January and try and get some answers.

I spent 20 years spending money to attend the national meetings, until the commissions started having "pre Meetings" this is the current practice of having all members sent their issue to the commisioners they want put on the agenda. Then the commissions make decissons prior to the annual meeting so when you get to the meeting there is not input by non commision memebers and they simply vote on agenda issues predetermined.
You can not get any answers from the board or Presdient that is meaningfull during the general and open board meeting.
The best thing that come from the NEW SOCIAL MEDIA process is to have the national meeting held on a web broad cast confrence and save everyone the cost of travel and hotel bills. The same outcome will happen without the cost!
Do you really think they will provide any more info at the meeting? Give me a break they will never allow the true facts to be given out. If memebers stood up at the open board meeting and started asking for answers and factual stats on expenditures of programs they would be given the bums rush and get the same BS that has been provided.
THE BEST ADVISE IS: STAY HOME AND BUY A NEW PROP OR 2 WITH THE MONEY IT COST TO ATTEND THE MEETING, YOU WILL BE MONEY AHEAD AND MUCH HAPPIER AT THE END OF THE DAY!

[jeff55v]

Cost of membership renewal.

Last year I paid for a new APBA membership for one of my good Ecuadorian friends. Today, he asked me what the cost will be to renew his APBA membership for 2013. So I went to the APBA website to find out. I can't view ANY membership renewal forms because my membership is still current! So i selected "new membership" to see where it would take me. Heck, I can't view any new membership documents until I spend 30 minutes filling out each required field! Why can't the website disclose the cost right up front? This seems like one of the sales tactics used by some of my not-so-favorite websites. So I went to the APBA not-so-social website to see if I can find information there. But I either can't find it, or it isn't there.
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE COST IS TO RENEW A STOCK OUTBOARD ONLY RACING MEMBERSHIP?
CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IT'S SO HARD TO FIND THIS INFORMATION?
Or should I wait until my membership is expired before I look to see what the renewal cost will be?

[blueskyracer]

Last year I paid for a new APBA membership for one of my good Ecuadorian friends. Today, he asked me what the cost will be to renew his APBA membership for 2013. So I went to the APBA website to find out. I can't view ANY membership renewal forms because my membership is still current! So i selected "new membership" to see where it would take me. Heck, I can't view any new membership documents until I spend 30 minutes filling out each required field! Why can't the website disclose the cost right up front? This seems like one of the sales tactics used by some of my not-so-favorite websites. So I went to the APBA not-so-social website to see if I can find information there. But I either can't find it, or it isn't there.
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE COST IS TO RENEW A STOCK OUTBOARD ONLY RACING MEMBERSHIP?
CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IT'S SO HARD TO FIND THIS INFORMATION?
Or should I wait until my membership is expired before I look to see what the renewal cost will be?

Quiet Jeff..Everything is a secret when it comes to money

[ram95]

Are we really a family sport?

So far, there have been a total of 56 posts by 26 different folks from 12 different states. Three of the 26 are afraid to say what state they are in so they're safe for the time being.

With only about three exceptions, everyone is only concerned with their own personal cost of racing. With but two exceptions no one factored in the 'family factor' and what it costs if you have a kid running JH,JR,AXH,AXR, along with your milicent butt running 20SSH, 25SSH, CSH for two days of racing 6 or 8 times per summer. What's that add up to bubb? Oh yeah... don't forget to chuck that DOT helmet... and let's try to mandate kevlar gloves, socks, bras and jock-straps.

That, my extended friends is what the heck I'm talking about. So you folks who feel 225 bucks for a super ticket, plus a years worth of entry fees is chump-change.... try racing by yourself?

And don't color me as some bleeding-heart liberal, I sit just to the right of Hannibal okay!! And I'll find yer freaking driveway. Load err up Jethro!!

Alex

[KURPS]

Great Idea

I think it's wrong that Stock, Mod, and Pro are three separate categories. They should all be ONE catagory, with all the same already existing classes within it.
We shouldn't have to buy a super license to race the popular classes that most of us do.
And that's all I have to say about that.

I think you are right, everyone need to sell their stock or mod and run PRO.

[Ron Hill]

Another problem you have!!!

Last year I paid for a new APBA membership for one of my good Ecuadorian friends. Today, he asked me what the cost will be to renew his APBA membership for 2013. So I went to the APBA website to find out. I can't view ANY membership renewal forms because my membership is still current! So i selected "new membership" to see where it would take me. Heck, I can't view any new membership documents until I spend 30 minutes filling out each required field! Why can't the website disclose the cost right up front? This seems like one of the sales tactics used by some of my not-so-favorite websites. So I went to the APBA not-so-social website to see if I can find information there. But I either can't find it, or it isn't there.
CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE COST IS TO RENEW A STOCK OUTBOARD ONLY RACING MEMBERSHIP?
CAN SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IT'S SO HARD TO FIND THIS INFORMATION?
Or should I wait until my membership is expired before I look to see what the renewal cost will be?

Jeff you are so guilty of "THINKING". If APBA had more members, they'd compete for Hall of Champions, run for office....be good members. We have our Hall of Champions people. We have our Officers. I suggest you play on the freeway..but STOP thinking!