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  • Originally posted by reed28n View Post
    Matt,

    Look forward and spend your energy revising parity rule and focus on parity. The motor is already in the class.

    Thats all...
    Unfortunately the 2013 SO Chairman has stated that he has no intention whatsoever to even appoint anyone to any parity committee unless directed to do so by the SORC. This is exactly the reason that the 20 drivers have no confidence in the parity process even though, if done properly, it could work.
    14-H

    "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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    • Parity Process

      Originally posted by 14-H View Post
      Unfortunately the 2013 SO Chairman has stated that he has no intention whatsoever to even appoint anyone to any parity committee unless directed to do so by the SORC. This is exactly the reason that the 20 drivers have no confidence in the parity process even though, if done properly, it could work.
      This was a poorly written rule that gives legislative power to the Chairman. The chairman is intended to be an administrative position.

      The SORC should demand the rule be tightened up.

      The SORC will represent what the members request.
      1- request a parity committee be appointed
      2- advise your commissioner of your desire
      3- lobby your position

      or pick and chose the rules you like and when you want to enforce them, surely you are aware of how this process works and how to move your agenda through this network.... you are a student of the process. You should support your SORC and work with them to do the right thing.

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      • I'm just happy to see that we are back on the front page!

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        • [QUOTE=reed28n;231066 The chairman is intended to be an administrative position. .[/QUOTE]

          Coming from the guy who broke a tie as the chairman to throw the Mercury out of A.
          "Ask anyone, I have no friends. I do have some people that put up with me and mostly because they like the rest of my family"

          Don Allen

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          • Originally posted by Big Don View Post
            Coming from the guy who broke a tie as the chairman to throw the Mercury out of A.
            Interesting

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            • Not to start up another debate but. Is removing the third motor in the A class any different than removing the third motor, in this case the Sidewinder, in 20SSH?
              John Runne
              2-Z

              Stock Outboard is all about a level playing field.

              True parity is one motor per class.

              It's RACING, not just another boat ride!

              NOT a representative of Racing Outboards LLC.

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              • Ironic

                I just find it very ironic that the person who seems to be the most against allowing the drivers vote on the legal motors in their class, is the same individual whose single vote removed a currently produced motor from a class.

                What's the word that was used?....oh yeah, CONTRADICTION.

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                • Finally know who the moron is.

                  Originally posted by Big Don View Post
                  Coming from the guy who broke a tie as the chairman to throw the Mercury out of A.
                  Hi, Reed, I started racing a couple of years ago with the understanding that the Merc would be the next A motor. Apparently you don't care or don't understand. Single dad, 2 kids, really like to do fun things with his kids. Boat racing, really fun, Merc as the next A, can probably keep doing this because the right choices are being made to keep it cost affective and AFFORDABLE. You really need to wake up Reed. Membership keeps dropping. Do you know why or do you care? Cost, bright eyes. I'll still take my kids racing, just not as often. Great job Reed, nice to know you were part of throwing the Merc out of A. All of us dads thank you. Keep up the great work Reed.

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                  • Your post does a great job, thank you.

                    Originally posted by schmitzer View Post


                    Hi, Reed, I started racing a couple of years ago with the understanding that the Merc would be the next A motor. Apparently you don't care or don't understand. Single dad, 2 kids, really like to do fun things with his kids. Boat racing, really fun, Merc as the next A, can probably keep doing this because the right choices are being made to keep it cost affective and AFFORDABLE. You really need to wake up Reed. Membership keeps dropping. Do you know why or do you care? Cost, bright eyes. I'll still take my kids racing, just not as often. Great job Reed, nice to know you were part of throwing the Merc out of A. All of us dads thank you. Keep up the great work Reed.
                    Your post does a great job of showing us who the moron really is. Thank you.



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                    • Thank you, nice to know someone agrees with me.

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                      • holy cow

                        I would hope the rhetoric would kinda slow down a little with this thread.....I don't think anybody involved is looking to kill stock outboard racing.....whether it be the Mercury A or the Sidewinder 20. We may not agree on stuff....but jeesh. Dave

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                        • The Mercury is a leagel A motor but will not compete with the very good OMC's or the Sidewinders. The real history of the Merc as an A motor was put on a ballot just as the 20 issue and the A drivers killed it by refusing to slow the OMC down so the Merc could compete. I won many local races with the Merc and could beat probably 80 percent of the OMC's in the country but not the top ones at a big race.
                          Destiny is a matter of chance,it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved.

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                          • Not sure if he gets it.....

                            Originally posted by CSH12M View Post
                            Your post does a great job of showing us who the moron really is. Thank you.
                            Dean- not sure he understands.......

                            BTW Reed's company is relocating him to Region #7!
                            17W

                            "You gotta do the work"- Pop Trolian

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                            • In the rules

                              Originally posted by Big Don View Post
                              Coming from the guy who broke a tie as the chairman to throw the Mercury out of A.
                              The only time the chairman is allowed to vote is in the case on a tie, I would vote the same way again. It allows the J category to maintian resources and have used motors available for the J category and the merc cannot compete in the A class.

                              The only reason to have the Merc in the A Class that made any sense was to have AXS drivers get a little more seat time and to allow other A drivers to achieve national points by beating up on some AXs drivers.

                              Both could have been accomplished by allowing AXS to step up at local races to make a class.

                              I did not vote independantly, it was with 1/2 of the commission and with the endorsement of the members that I surveyed.

                              I did not re-write the rules to favor my agenda, I did not side step the SORC. I did not appoint any commissioners that were not elected to vote on these controversial votes, it was only commissioners sent by their members and the commissioners that elected me. It was a pure representation of the members.

                              I did however upset the midwest Reg 6 and Reg 7.... they let their force be known by unseating the me and appointing extra commissioners to vote in their direction. The will of the total membership of APBA, equally balanced with all points of view? or slanted to advance a singular agenda.

                              At least the decision was reversed through the SORC and the current process within the SORC and I have no issue with that.

                              I lead an effort to carry out a 5 year plan which the midwest had a huge hand in developing but it was scrapped by the same people that developed the plan, in favor of including everyone with all power plants, now they have changed their mind again in favor of excluding only a few...... visionaries

                              Riddle me this, how many drivers particiapted with the following - Y80 in 25SSR, 35XS or Mercury Mark 55-H in DSH or DSR, or or Mercury/25SS in 25H or 25R.... should 45SS still be a Stock class?

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                              • Nice to hear from you

                                Originally posted by 17W View Post
                                Dean- not sure he understands.......

                                BTW Reed's company is relocating him to Region #7!
                                Have not seen you in a while. When are you gonna get that CSR back to Grass Lake?

                                Reed in Region 7, that will be the day. That would be really funny to watch



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