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  • #46
    Yep!

    Originally posted by pav225 View Post
    I know it's fun to blame Ed, but I'm not sure if he is part of the MORC that voted to continue the Mod Nationals at Dayton. Guess we should understand the facts before giving someone a hard time.

    Tough call either way. SORC gets complaints for not finishing Nationals. MORC gets complaints for finishing them.

    We have the 2nd half of the season in front of us. Lets enjoy it!

    Mike
    Well said.........Ed and the Dayton Race are taking heat for the MORC Decision. It seems the Stock Outboard Community has more of a issue with it than the MODIFIED Members?? Kinda funny. Guess that's why the MODIFIED DIVISION and STOCK DIVISION may never be ONE.



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    • #47
      Mini Nationals

      I don't know that members of the MOD community have been silent. Maybe stunned is a better word. I for one am at a complete loss for how there could be such a communication and leadership breakdown to let this happen. Did any of the commissioners think to raise the question of still trying to complete the nationals after the other divisions made what many seem to think is the correct call? How hard would it have been to regroup and see if the consensus was the same? How did it then escalate to the point that the APBA board of directors really stretched some rules to further enable this? I wonder how the voting would have been if it was against one of our own club's race dates.

      Funny thing is that I looked on the APBA social page which I have been told is the proper venue for information, but came up empty. You would almost think that it would be the banner news on the homepage as well. For all the talk about the new digital age, I see nothing. I guess the bulletin that went out to update a sanction that doesn't even exist yet will have to do! Maybe the first sentence should be change from "Funny thing" to "Sad thing", I just don't know.

      I know that there is always lots of talk of the governing of our sport being all about self-interest. I would like someone to explain to me how this isn't just that. I really like the posts disclaiming this guy or that guy as a potential in any given class. I guess with this new scenario, we will never know will we?

      I am sure that there will be all sorts of negative posts to this note. How about some honest answers? How did this go so far astray? It was through many levels as well.

      On the upside I did get to see what the new nationals trophies will look like. I'm not sure what the medallion is made of, but when you tap on it it sounds sort of....

      I don't know.....

      Hollow......


      Steve Roskowski
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      • #48
        Originally posted by modhydro View Post
        I don't know that members of the MOD community have been silent. Maybe stunned is a better word. I for one am at a complete loss for how there could be such a communication and leadership breakdown to let this happen. Did any of the commissioners think to raise the question of still trying to complete the nationals after the other divisions made what many seem to think is the correct call? How hard would it have been to regroup and see if the consensus was the same? How did it then escalate to the point that the APBA board of directors really stretched some rules to further enable this? I wonder how the voting would have been if it was against one of our own club's race dates.

        Funny thing is that I looked on the APBA social page which I have been told is the proper venue for information, but came up empty. You would almost think that it would be the banner news on the homepage as well. For all the talk about the new digital age, I see nothing. I guess the bulletin that went out to update a sanction that doesn't even exist yet will have to do! Maybe the first sentence should be change from "Funny thing" to "Sad thing", I just don't know.

        I know that there is always lots of talk of the governing of our sport being all about self-interest. I would like someone to explain to me how this isn't just that. I really like the posts disclaiming this guy or that guy as a potential in any given class. I guess with this new scenario, we will never know will we?

        I am sure that there will be all sorts of negative posts to this note. How about some honest answers? How did this go so far astray? It was through many levels as well.

        On the upside I did get to see what the new nationals trophies will look like. I'm not sure what the medallion is made of, but when you tap on it it sounds sort of....

        I don't know.....

        Hollow......


        Steve Roskowski
        Steve when you need news updates on Stock Outboard Mod or Pro Racing I suggest you come here first to HRNET. If you cant find updates here on HRNET I usually have updates from around the globe posted pretty quick on HRTV.

        You can follow HRTV at the following locations, take your pick. I also have two European contributors, Yvonne Koenig and Christian Langer. Val Collins helps out here in the states and John Peeters did a bang up job for us from the APBA Pro Nationals.

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        https://www.facebook.com/hydroracertv

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        • #49
          Kyle - Be careful about making this an east coast / west coast thing. I assure you a lot of folks over on this side completely understand your perspective and see that this situation is ridiculous and unfair to drivers who spent their money and time getting to NY to race for their championship and are unable to get to another race - no matter the location. Stock made the right decision

          IMO - drivers who made the finals at Whitney but can't make Dayton should be working up their appeals to take to National meeting to strike the championships at Dayton from the record books, place an asterisk, and/or negate HOC points .... you know "Lawyer Mod Hydro" it's a shame to do this but heck fight fire with fire

          Steve - Good for you for bringing up the ole APBA social site, heck I went there prior to the floods at nationals to try to get some info, pictures, anything to do some couch racing as I couldn't afford even the trip to NY - and found nothing!!! That site is worthless - again IMO

          Dan - I agree, thank and compliment you on you're continued amazing coverage and promotion of our sport. Have you ever considered and / or presented at National Meeting to be the promotional firm for APBA? - I know this is off subject

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          • #50
            The Great flood of 2013

            From the great flood of 2013 we hear stories of competitors coming together, united in a common goal to battle the rages of mother nature. From these battles we have stories of dedication and heroism as individuals reach out to their fellow man during their hour of need. Some may feel disappointment, others regret, and others might see opportunity. But through it all most will feel pride and a sense of of unified accomplishment in overcoming adversity.
            In the end all those all those who experienced the 2013 APBA Stock/Mod National, be it in person or vicariously will have stories to tell for a lifetime and I believe those stories will be of triumph. 50-R

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            • #51
              Oh Wow

              Hey people, don't just drink Alcohol, use it for fuel in your engines, and this nonsense will go away!

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              • #52
                Originally posted by modhydro View Post
                I don't know that members of the MOD community have been silent. Maybe stunned is a better word. I for one am at a complete loss for how there could be such a communication and leadership breakdown to let this happen. Did any of the commissioners think to raise the question of still trying to complete the nationals after the other divisions made what many seem to think is the correct call? How hard would it have been to regroup and see if the consensus was the same? How did it then escalate to the point that the APBA board of directors really stretched some rules to further enable this? I wonder how the voting would have been if it was against one of our own club's race dates.

                Funny thing is that I looked on the APBA social page which I have been told is the proper venue for information, but came up empty. You would almost think that it would be the banner news on the homepage as well. For all the talk about the new digital age, I see nothing. I guess the bulletin that went out to update a sanction that doesn't even exist yet will have to do! Maybe the first sentence should be change from "Funny thing" to "Sad thing", I just don't know.

                I know that there is always lots of talk of the governing of our sport being all about self-interest. I would like someone to explain to me how this isn't just that. I really like the posts disclaiming this guy or that guy as a potential in any given class. I guess with this new scenario, we will never know will we?

                I am sure that there will be all sorts of negative posts to this note. How about some honest answers? How did this go so far astray? It was through many levels as well.

                On the upside I did get to see what the new nationals trophies will look like. I'm not sure what the medallion is made of, but when you tap on it it sounds sort of....

                I don't know.....

                Hollow......


                Steve Roskowski

                well said Steve...........I am still stunned from what was decided and am a member of the MORC...........also, how can there have been a non-biased vote, when 5 members of the MORC also race in the 500ccmh class and were qualified for the finals?

                my question............besides the BOD overturning the decision to run the race against another race/races on the same weekend..............but, how can the sanction of been approved for Dayton, when they are required 30days in adavance??? Was that rule also overturned?

                PS: also, the Dayton race also conflicts against Reg10's largest MOD race of the year............apparently the BOD overlooked that also...
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                • #53
                  Wow

                  It is disapointing to see this news. I felt the decision that would be fair to the racers and crews would be to cancel. I see it is not for the racer anymore.

                  I can also see the points from both sides. I truly feel that any qualified driver that is not in attendence should be an empty slot on the water. The field should not be filled. But that is just my uneducated opinion. No wonder boat racing is suffering losses. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don't.
                  Dave Mason
                  Just A Boat Racer

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                  • #54
                    It is really sad when Nationals for two years in a row has become a big joke.. And folks wonder why the sport is dying!!
                    Mike - One of the Montana Boys

                    If it aint fast make it look good



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                    • #55
                      Joke?

                      Maybe that's because you weren't at either of the last two nationals.
                      Team Red



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                      • #56
                        I was thinking about going next year but not now. Maybe Joke was to strong so we will say "Tragedy"
                        Mike - One of the Montana Boys

                        If it aint fast make it look good



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                        • #57
                          Pity that events that had no direct impact on you would keep you away from racing against the some of the best competition you could ask for.

                          If that's all it takes..hate to see what would happen if you got chopped or had a red flag take away a potentional National Championship.

                          I suggest you race in Moses Lake or the next Nationals and see first hand what it's all about. You might really like it.

                          Dana



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                          • #58
                            I did do Nationals last year in Illinois and it was a blast
                            Mike - One of the Montana Boys

                            If it aint fast make it look good



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                            • #59
                              Dayton

                              Not one MOD comm. has come on here and told us how this second Nat's at Dayton came about this is what people want to know. Mike is right about this deal.

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                              • #60
                                You're probably not going to get a Mod commissioner on this website to defend their decision, and I don't blame them. They met, spent hours looking at their options, had a vote and made a decision. That is what you elected them to do. In their opinion they are acting in the best interest of their category. None of them are hiding behind a keyboard, complaining to the world about how unfair life is, or why can't it go MY way. There is no clear right or wrong in this scenario, only a decision.

                                Who says being on a commission isn't rewarding?
                                John Runne
                                2-Z

                                Stock Outboard is all about a level playing field.

                                True parity is one motor per class.

                                It's RACING, not just another boat ride!

                                NOT a representative of Racing Outboards LLC.

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