California pickles

[G Stillwill]

The diagram is confusing one part says that the total radius is one inch then it say the shaded area is one inch radius that means the shaded area is two inches across yet the total which is supposed to be a one inch radius is clearly much wider then the shaded area so the total radius has to be more then a one inch radius. all this because it has to have a thickness rule. So on the smaller boats to get the thickness you will end up with what looks like tongue with a big ugly wart on the end of it.

[HydroKyle93R]

Perhaps we should apply this rule http://www.apba.org/news/anti-doping-5554 , and then perhaps you'll find extra clarity.

LMAO.


On another note, Mike does have a good point though. There is no specification on material and in my mind this seems to be important. Hypothetically, I use a block of stainless, carriage bolted to my sponsons, and filed to shape as my blunt pickle tips?

Just throwing it out there...Obviously I wouldn't waste a good chunk of steel on this.

[G Stillwill]

Sometimes you can have so many rules you rule yourself right out of business.

[Matt Dagostino]

I like that

Sometimes you can have so many rules you rule yourself right out of business.

Well said George............and here i thought smelling all that glue was slowing you down!!

For 30 years APBA never worried about 'pickles' and now all of a sudden it is 'job one'. Razor sharp exposed skip fins, pointed lower units along with props spinning freely at 8000plus RPM seem to be a bigger issue if you really want to micromanage things!!

Maybe we should worry less about complying with UIM Rules and focus on the USA and our drivers here.

Sincerly
Gary Pond

[Dave M]

Indeed

Well said George............and here i thought smelling all that glue was slowing you down!!

For 30 years APBA never worried about 'pickles' and now all of a sudden it is 'job one'. Razor sharp exposed skip fins, pointed lower units along with props spinning freely at 8000plus RPM seem to be a bigger issue if you really want to micromanage things!!

Maybe we should worry less about complying with UIM Rules and focus on the USA and our drivers here.

Sincerly
Gary Pond

I like what George said as well. It certainly affects my interests. I am betting I am not the only one.

What is sad, I think the reasoning behind a lot of the dubbed "saftey rules" are the direct result of the lawyers of the organization looking out for the best interests of the organization, not the drivers. This is not a bad thing. What is sad is the fact we live in a sue happy society today and it is only getting worse. I knew the moment they ruled in favor of that idiot lady who sued McDonalds for spilling hot coffee on herself and awarded her millions for damages society was changing.

Nobody likes a micromanger anyways.

[Big Don]

My understanding is this was brought upon by ourselves. Our insurance company did not ask for this. If I’m wrong, someone correct me.

My understanding is that our insurance company biggest concern is that we conform to our rules when we have them. We set the rules not them.

[csh2z]

That is correct, Don.

[indyracer87]

Quick question for anyone who cares to answer: I am reading the 2013 SO-MO-PRO rulebook and it looks like Mod hydroplanes built before October 31, 2007 will be grandfathered in and are not held to the picklefork rule for the 2013 season. Is this correct?

I am looking at Rule 3, part 21A at the bottom of page 3.

[csh2z]

Indy,
That is correct for the Mod category only. The Stock and J categories do not have a grandfather clause.

[indyracer87]

Indy,
That is correct for the Mod category only. The Stock and J categories do not have a grandfather clause.

That's good to know. Thank you.

[G Stillwill]

Hers a little food for thought the pickles basically serve on purpose and that is to keep the boat from stuffing. Now the more be have to shorten them and the more we have to radius them the more prone they will be to stuffing. Now the tips become dive planes and anyone that has stuffed a boat doesnt want to return to that scene. Now in the long run we open up a whole new ball park for accidents, just sayin

[Jeff Brewster 59s]

As promised....

All this information is interesting but the official web site shows the new rule book on this issue and it differs from what folks are saying. I tend to go with what is published on the Official web site. That's what we've been advised to do in the past. I guess that over time it'll be worked out but as it now stands it is very unclear just what the rule for 2013 is. Jack

The new rules are on the APBA website now.

http://www.apba.org/sites/all/files/...%20Rules_0.pdf

[Jeff Brewster 59s]

Hers a little food for thought the pickles basically serve on purpose and that is to keep the boat from stuffing. Now the more be have to shorten them and the more we have to radius them the more prone they will be to stuffing. Now the tips become dive planes and anyone that has stuffed a boat doesnt want to return to that scene. Now in the long run we open up a whole new ball park for accidents, just sayin

George, did anyone tell you to shorten them? Don't think so. Add material like I did. Piece of cake, even for an "idiot" like me!

[propnuts]

And another thing

We built a boat a while back with super rounded pickleforks, and it was a gigantic PITA to try to pick the boat up from the front, nothing really to grab.

Hers a little food for thought the pickles basically serve on purpose and that is to keep the boat from stuffing. Now the more be have to shorten them and the more we have to radius them the more prone they will be to stuffing. Now the tips become dive planes and anyone that has stuffed a boat doesnt want to return to that scene. Now in the long run we open up a whole new ball park for accidents, just sayin

[ram95]

Dope rule

Perhaps we should apply this rule http://www.apba.org/news/anti-doping-5554 , and then perhaps you'll find extra clarity.

Hey Guedo.... fer crissakes mon, that rule is for DOPEs

However, I do think it should be mandatory that it be printed on an 8x10' sheet of plywood and planted at the entry to every ........ errr ahhh .... restroom.