Stock Chairman's Long Term Plan

[Don11m]

APBA year end numbers

The year end reports are not out yet. Send me a private message with your fax number and I will send you a copy when they are here.... Don Allen

[14-H]

Thanks, Don.

[kws]

my 2 cents DONT PUT NO FREAKIN RESTRICTER PLATES IN A ED
to me it would make more sense to add weight to slow them down (i assume thats your reason) if you add weight,more drivers can make weight therefor you at least have the potential to increase the boats on the water in A. And thats without membership growth.

[Ron Hill]

Learn From AOF and NBRA......

14-H.....You have my support for your Five Year Plan. Boat Racing needs an UMBRELLA Organization and I believe APBA is it. When we talked of putting on The Blue Water Resort and Casino 300 Enduro, we talked about NOT BEING APBA, as we wanted to re-write rules and CONCEPTS.

Bill Boyes, actually got US to use APBA Special Events. When the January 2007 Powerboat Magazine came out, not only was I proud that my son and his good friend, at Bowamn, won Parker, but I was proud for my father and my family that it was APBA, too.

My dad put on the first APBA RACES in California. Having said that...as a SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, I know I have to keep my overhead DOWN to keep any PROFIT. It is real easy to lose money when you are in your own business....

14-H uses them BIG words, but it is somewhat like when Mickey Rooney was dancing with Dolly Parton...HE SAID, "MAN A LOT OF OVERHEAD HERE." Besides the expense, Stock-Mod-Pro are in fact all Classic Outboards. AND 9/10 of the world can't tell a MOD, from a PRO....MY ad was Race Chairman of the LASA, when they voted to KICK those "**** MAERCURY's" out of the Club...1951..My dad left LASA, and went with USA, the "**** MERCURY" Club..

My post is really about, RACE FORE MAT...From what I hear, from Dudley Malone, NBRA runs six heats, and they run all classes together...Fast guys learn to stay out of the way of slow guys and slow guys learn to stay out of the way of fast guys... Seems to me, this is a PERFECT CONCEPT....12 heats, you'd only need two boats...A runabout and hydro...I believe that guys like me, in the OLD DAYS, without knowing it, were BAD FOR BOAT RACING....One year, I won B, C, D Stock Hydro High Points and B, C, D Stock Runabout High Points...That left 2 J High Points, 2 A High Points and 36, high point for the rest of the CLUB....I got 6 HIGH POINTs the rest of the club got 5...NBRA, only runs hydros in Oklahoma....but one guy can't win them all...

I go to Parker, they run A, 20 and C Hydro....Gary is out front in A, 20 and C hydro....If they ran them together....Someone besides Gary would win....and Gary woldn't have to have three boats to race....It is too difficult to win and race...

Just a thought...Maybe, .....No one would try it....You know...Two ten lap heats Saturday and a 20-25 lap Main on Sunday....


Seems to me, I'd vote for ED for OUTBOARD KING....Just think, you could have me for a lot more money and I have a lot more CRAZY ideas that ED....

[raceright]

stock chairman,s long term plan

I realy do not have enough time to respond to this idea. I hire people when I need to type that much. This is a awful idea NO NO NO . Notice there is not to much response from the Pro people.
Pat Wright

Lawyers are just like screwdrivers you pull them out when you need them

[csh2z]

Ed is just stirring the pot ( or smoking ). This ain't happening. John 2-Z

[17W]

Ed is just stirring the pot ( or smoking ). This ain't happening. John 2-Z

Good to hear!

[racerchic3z]

Ed is just stirring the pot ( or smoking ). This ain't happening. John 2-Z

DAAAAAAD! you can't talk about that kinda stuff! C'mon... you don't wanna make the Runne's look bad... wait... Ryan already covered that...

[Charlie Pater]

It would be nice to enforce the current rules about eliminating the classes that cannot meet the minimum number of boats.

Charlie

[kws]

Ron.
(if I have the numbers wrong please correct me someone from region 7)
off the top of my head i would say most of our weekends have 45-65 boats
and 20-30 drivers. Your plan would max entry fees based on the number drivers. I dont believe we can pay for the weekend
On the other hand if you have the sponsorships neccesary to cover all the costs then i think it would work AND be a really fun weekend.
What about J.? i seem to recall something about J's and the big kids not supposed to be on the water together? or am i all wet with that one?

[Cameraboy]

Ed is just stirring the pot ( or smoking ). This ain't happening. John 2-Z

Ed's thrown down a plan, stream-of-consciousness that it is. John, you've talked of a plan in the past - anything to share, or will folks see it in LA?

[csh2z]

Mike, The plan will be developed by the newly created Stock Outboard Steering Committee of which I am chairman. Once the committee is formed, we expect to make some proposals for the L.A. meeting, not many. As time goes on the committee members will be communicating with all the membership to gather ideas & support for a final draft. This is going to take some time so be patient. I expect that by the Nationals 2007 we will have a pretty good outline of our direction. I think this is the best way to go because if I were to propose MY plan it would get shot down by the commission because, in my experience, the SORC is afraid to take any bold steps that might offend anyone, it doesn't seem to matter who is on it. John Runne 2-Z
P.S. I hope I didn't offend anyone!

[14-H]

Ed is just stirring the pot ( or smoking ). This ain't happening. John 2-Z

John: I'm not just stirring the pot. But you are 100% correct that it will never happen. First, everyone who would have to vote on such a proposal has a vested interest in seeing that it doesn't happen. Second, after the SEA-TAC debacle, the APBA BOD would never think of doing something so bold without a vote of the commissions or members due to the potential revolt.

None of this, however, means that what I have proposed is not in the best interests of the sport. I truly believe that it is. It would give every piece of current equipment a home to race thereby preserving all current members, it would encourage the development and entry of new equipment into the sport and show the manufacturers that we are serious about making sure that they can sell their wares after they go to the trouble of developing it for us, it would scale down the number of classes and make a better program or show and it would significantly reduce the amount of work at HQ so that other duties like promotion could be assigned to the national office.

Who wants to say I'm wrong? Ed.

[14-H]

It would be nice to enforce the current rules about eliminating the classes that cannot meet the minimum number of boats.

Charlie

There are no such current rules that eliminate classes. They were removed before I became chairman. The only rules about minimum numbers determine whether a championship will be granted or whether a HOC point is assigned. Ed.

[14-H]

John: I'm not just stirring the pot. But you are 100% correct that it will never happen. ***? Ed.

The thing that Gary Miller did, smart politician that he was, was to run on a vague platform of class combination and reduction and promotion without telling anyone what the plan actually was until after he got elected. Everyone in MOD pretty much agreed that the number of classes needed to be reduced. But Miller knew they would never agree on HOW it should be done. So he ran on the general platform without being specific, got elected, developed the plan, appointed a commission to implement it and THEN announced the plan.

If I were really serious about this, that's the way I should have done it too. I could have controlled the destiny of the SORC by appointing enough commissioners to make sure such a plan were implemented. I guess my zeal to bring the issue into this forum for open discussion, however, has ensured that it will never happen.