Stock Outboard 2011 National Meeting Updates!!!!!!

[raw]

Could someone please explain why the sorc has a problem with mounting a steering bar gas tank on the OMC A motor.Is it legal to run a steering bar tank on a Sidewinder and a Mercury but not the OMC?Why not?. Ross Webster #12-ce

[mike ross]

ok boys and girls here is the final agenda. A couple of points since the last posting of the agenda. The A parity committee had a meeting late yesterday and pulled the restrictor on the carb for the Sidewinder for 45 days. They are also headed back to the lake in Florida soon for more data so they can revisit the new results. Stay tuned!!! Dean Sutherlands Class reduction motion was brought back up with an advisory committee for rules and a 2014 completion date. A lot of the items in here will be going to ballot so make sure you vote. You can't whine if your not voting!!!! See ya at Wakefield!!!! Mikey

[Gunjumper]

Because Ross, that would make sense... Duh! GL

[BP125V]

OMC gas tank

Because Ross, that would make sense... Duh! GL

this issue gets brought up every few years and everytime Ed Runne recommends against it since the gas tank would be hanging from the steering bar brackets which are attached to the engine by the bolts that are holding the power head on. In his mind it is an issue of safety and apparently others agree with him.

[raw]

I do not understand,the commision was sent the data sheets on the bolts in question .Those bolts will hold 300lbs there should not be a problem with a 5lbs gas tank.This makes no sense! So now you can replace the grade 8 bolts holding on the gearcase to any bolt(brass or aluiminum).This is the reason I quit as a commisioner it seems as though common sense gets left at the door once the meeting begins. Ross

[Haüenstein]

I do not understand,the commision was sent the data sheets on the bolts in question .Those bolts will hold 300lbs there should not be a problem with a 5lbs gas tank.This makes no sense! So now you can replace the grade 8 bolts holding on the gearcase to any bolt(brass or aluiminum).This is the reason I quit as a commisioner it seems as though common sense gets left at the door once the meeting begins. Ross

F=ma... an A rig weighs about 350 pounds.

[BP125V]

bolts?

I do not understand,the commision was sent the data sheets on the bolts in question .Those bolts will hold 300lbs there should not be a problem with a 5lbs gas tank.This makes no sense! So now you can replace the grade 8 bolts holding on the gearcase to any bolt(brass or aluiminum).This is the reason I quit as a commisioner it seems as though common sense gets left at the door once the meeting begins. Ross

Ross,

It is not a matter of the 1/4-20 powerhead bolts failing, it is the bolts stripping out of the threads in the relatively soft aluminum in the power head. The same logic applies to the gearcase - the bolts themselves are not going to break but they will strip out of the threads that are tapped into the bottom of the relatively soft aluminum of the tower. Also, keep in mind how many times these engines are assembled and disassembled over the past 25 - years slowly weakening the threads. I hold my breath every time I put a gearcase on one of my OMC's.

If the powerheads were attached with bolts AND nuts I'm sure it would be an entirely different matter.

by the way - the original gearcase bolts are not grade 8 and they don't need to be due to what they are threaded into.

[raw]

If the threads were such a big issue why wasn't proposal #2 passed to allow to replace the bolts with studs and nylon lock nuts so one could get rid of the stupid wire holding the bolts from falling out.The threads are getting stripped out of the block because people are overtightening the bolts so the holes line up for the stupid wire.Makes no sense. Ross

[Mrs blueskyracer]

Mike, thanks for your great job on the reporting of the annual meeting for those of us who were unable to attend. It is much appreciated.

[pav225]

Pretty Funny...

I figured if they changed to 3/4" it would have to be over Pavlick and Allen's bloody corpses.

Come on now...I'd be ok with a change if it made logical sense :-)

Right now there is great parity between the Y302s and Y80s, so why mess with the recipe if there is not a compelling reason to change??

I'll support changes if they are backed by facts and data. The push to move 20ssH to 3/4" wasn't supported by either.

- Mike

[daveracerdsh]

Tohatsu

The commission voted to make it legal for the D owners to solder up the holes in the butterflies if memory serves me correct. There will also be a parity meeting in the very near future ( I hope) to discuss raising the Tohatsu height to 1/2. Racerdave

[j hydro racer]

thanks

Wanted to thank the APBA Historical Society and The J Committee for awarding me the J scholarship. I am very honored to have been awarded this and I wish i could have been there to accept it in person but i was able to view it on hydroracer.
Thanks again to everyone
-Johnny

[Matt Dagostino]

Detroit Blues..........

Right now there is great parity between the Y302s and Y80s, so why mess with the recipe if there is not a compelling reason to change??

I'll support changes if they are backed by facts and data. The push to move 20ssH to 3/4" wasn't supported by either.

- Mike

That's your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions!! A big part of last years move to lower the Yamato 80 height to 3/4" was to make the NEW AVAILABLE 302 the MOTOR OF CHOICE in the class so both newbies and veterans wouldn't be scrounging for KILLER 40 year old Yamato 80's like you have. DO we really want to be racing ANTIQUE motors forever?????? Just my opinion.

Matt
ps.........you looked good in that suit at the banquet. You clean up well!!

[Big Don]

hmmmmmm...I think you pushed more the point that it would save people from cooking their engines. And I replied, it's not an issue for us. But then again maybe I heard wrong.

…as far as parity is concerned...I don't think you can ever have true parity in any class...you can get close, but someone or something will always have an advantage. Unfortunately we have it in all our classes.

Mr Hearn is correct though in the fact that when both side are unhappy you know you are close.

[Matt Dagostino]

Could be.........

hmmmmmm...I think you pushed more the point that it would save people from cooking their engines. And I replied, it's not an issue for us. But then again maybe I heard wrong.

I guess at times "i don't necessarily agree with everything i say" either........

See you at the Antique Meet in Wakefield this summer........

Matt
ps....Hydroracer streamed the HOC presentation live and Val thought Donny was the star of the big show!! See ya!