champion---hotrod ???

[marteni]

fyi craigslist (phoenix) #2135467621

[B Walker]

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/boa/2135467621.html


BW

It is taking a lot of effort not to take a shot at the current state of Hot-Rod here.

[Aussie Steve]

Steve A

[sam]

Champion, but probably not a "Hot Rod"

Champion started out making fishing motors

[T Chance]

I believe the Champion that size of that era was 12-1/2 c.i. rated at 7.9 hp. I had two of them as a kid in the 50's. One of mine was a gasoline burner and the other was an alcohol burner. At that time they raced in National Outboard Association races as class A-1. My alcohol burner was built by Irv Kurke a Champion engineer, and a boat racer, it had a lightened flywheel, knurled pistons and open exhaust. Both had Hot Rod gearcases.

[champhotrod]

any body looking for an Old Hot Rod?

I've got one for sale:
1956 style 6NHR Champion Hot Rod with modern 34mm Lectron Carb.
Aluminum center main.

New rings, seals and bearings.
Lower unit has new bearings and seals.
Block and case do have some weld on them.
15 minutes tank time on rebuild only.

Engine only: $1850 with Lectron Carb, offers considered
can supply Carter Carb instead.

accessories available for extra cost.

Serious inquiries: Email or call for details

Cooper Jess
Ripon Wisconsin
days: 920-748-2600
good1@centurytel.net

[champhotrod]

Kurke

I believe the Champion that size of that era was 12-1/2 c.i. rated at 7.9 hp. I had two of them as a kid in the 50's. One of mine was a gasoline burner and the other was an alcohol burner. At that time they raced in National Outboard Association races as class A-1. My alcohol burner was built by Irv Kurke a Champion engineer, and a boat racer, it had a lightened flywheel, knurled pistons and open exhaust. Both had Hot Rod gearcases.

Tim,
Could that have been Ray Kurke?

Cooper

[marteni]

ray i do think its a true 8.5 but not a hotrod they were 20 cu and 16.5 hp at least that what im seeing on the net this morning. i had a hotrod i raced way back when with meg exhost and padded pistons and ported i raced in b mod it was built by jim wilson sr and grandpa harnack in spokane wa

[T Chance]

Tim,
Could that have been Ray Kurke?

Cooper

His brother. As a note, when Ray quit racing , about 1960 I bought a B Hot Rod from him. As another note, when Irv would win a race he would stand on his head with his feet straight up in the air as the crossed the finish line. I had a photo showing that, but lost it over the years. Different era back then!

[oldracer]

I think I might know the seller. At that price it will be a fishing engine especially if I know the seller.

[marteni]

champ hotrod

stand on his head at the finish line thats funny really thats funny

[Skoontz]

The selller emailed me pictures. It's a fishing engine, but as he said, showroom new. Not a mark anywhere on the thing.

[marteni]

can you post a pic here for the rest of us to see thanks Pat

[T Chance]

ray i do think its a true 8.5 but not a hotrod they were 20 cu and 16.5 hp at least that what im seeing on the net this morning. i had a hotrod i raced way back when with meg exhost and padded pistons and ported i raced in b mod it was built by jim wilson sr and grandpa harnack in spokane wa

See my post above. Champion built the 12-1/2 c.i. Hot Rod first, then after it was discontinued came the 9.9 c.i and 19.94 c.i. and a couple of prototype 14.94 c.i. engines. Later Lyle Swanson build the "A" Hot Rod in quantities after he bought the fishing motor replacement parts business and the rights to the Hot Rod from the factory. But yes there, was a Hot Rod version of that old engine.

As a side note: I grew up on Lake Minnetonka just West of Minneapolis. My next door was a Champion dealer. I have been to the factory many times as a Kid. And, I believe I got the last Champion Hot Rod ever built at the factory. It after they had stopped production but before the rights were purchased by Swanson. My neighbor went down to the factory and they put together a "B" for me complete with the optional alcohol jet and open exhaust stack. The price? $125.00 as I remember.

[champhotrod]

Early Champs

See my post above. Champion built the 12-1/2 c.i. Hot Rod first, then after it was discontinued came the 9.9 c.i and 19.94 c.i. and a couple of prototype 14.94 c.i. engines. Later Lyle Swanson build the "A" Hot Rod in quantities after he bought the fishing motor replacement parts business and the rights to the Hot Rod from the factory. But yes there, was a Hot Rod version of that old engine.

Champion made three versions of the early 12+ Cu in Hot Rods, 162 of the 4KS in 1949, then 38 of the 4LS in 1950 then on to 238 of the 4LS- 1X in 1950 and 1951. The 4KS and 4LS had gearcases that looked like the Hydro drive cases of the 2LHD and 4LHD service engines. the 4LS=1X was the first with the actual racing gearcase with the 14/19 ratio.
Cooper