MY thoughts on the Mini Most

[David Weaver]

Hey Doug

I'm with Weaver, let's throw the nine year olds in 125s.

Chris Hellsten began racing 125 when he was 10. He turned-out OK!!

I like the mini most idea. The USTS began letting kids run many years ago with restricted engines of all sorts. Eventually, this grew into today's K PRO class. THe interesting thing with K PRO is that a parent can add/subtract a restrictor based on each child's invidual development. My opinion is that J classes, min most, K PRO, etc. should have development of driving skills as the first priority and competition results as the second priority.

But, I am not naive and competition is the priority for most. I must say that over the years, I am always impressed with the capability of our young outboard drivers.

[MGallagher]

Dan-They have snail racing for ------ sake!LOL! Also, given all the races you go to and compete in I don't think the tunnel boat ride should have been your first. j/k

On a serious note, I would love a class like this for my son to start in for the first 2 years and it would also be great for some of the old timers(70+?) around the pits to have some fun on the water on any given weekend.

[HRTV]

Dan-They have snail racing for ------ sake!LOL! Also, given all the races you go to and compete in I don't think the tunnel boat ride should have been your first. j/k

On a serious note, I would love a class like this for my son to start in for the first 2 years and it would also be great for some of the old timers(70+?) around the pits to have some fun on the water on any given weekend.

Matt,

All kidding aside I still disagree and will not change my mind this class is not needed. In order for the sport to thrive and succeed people need to change there way of thinking and stop worrying about the kids and the old timers. Let me say it again! These super slow classes for kids and old timers will do absolutely nothing to help the sport.

[T Chance]

The Minimost/Minimax was obsolete fifty years ago when it was designed. Back when my kids were little they raced miniature versions of what I raced. They knew a lot about racing and there is no way I could have gotten them into an ugly ill handling Mechanix Illustrated piece of junk! I have a grandson coming of racing age and I wouldn't insult him with a Minimost/Minimax.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if you are going to do it. Do it right.

The Photo is my son with a homebuilt (by me) hydro and a Mercury 60J in 1972.

[HRTV]

The Minimost/Minimax was obsolete fifty years ago when it was designed. Back when my kids were little they raced miniature versions of what I raced. They knew a lot about racing and there is no way I could have gotten them into an ugly ill handling Mechanix Illustrated piece of junk! I have a grandson coming of racing age and I wouldn't insult him with a Minimost/Minimax.

I guess what I'm trying to say is if you are going to do it. Do it right.

The Photo is my son with a homebuilt (by me) hydro and a Mercury 60J in 1972.

Bravo Tim, well said.

This is what the kids want! stop treating them like little old ladies these photos were taken on Nov. 18th 2007 * For the record yes I am a parent

[raceright]

Matt,

All kidding aside I still disagree and will not change my mind this class is not needed. In order for the sport to thrive and succeed people need to change there way of thinking and stop worrying about the kids and the old timers. Let me say it again! These super slow classes for kids and old timers will do absolutely nothing to help the sport.

Now ya started old timers and little kids ----hey when I'm to old to race at speeds over 100 I'll stop drivin and put someone in my boats(in some cases already do) don't put old timers in the same sentence as kids...and ya 20mph ain't racing everyone knows that. Seems Shawn has his idea to help and is putting up ..We need more put up and less talk..
But ya need new engines if ya can't buy it ya should retire it and race something ya can buy..My first race boat was a Jacoby one step with a
44 merc on a short shaft unit with a two bladed brass prop. early 60's and I did it all by my self Guess why cause I could.. (dam near killed myself but was now hooked for life).
Its what I could by at the local boat shop at the time on Long Island---then I found some alky guy's and got direction into this sport. I believe because we are so specialised today growth with new blood has to come from local
Boat shops..
Pat

[MGallagher]

WOW! Who sounds like little girls now! LOL!

Hey Dan, you should be a PR guy for go-carting cause that is what my kid is going to race now! 10 grand, WOW!

I highly doubt the minimost will become a class. As a fun thing for an introductory to our sport its not a bad idea. Example: instead of having go-cart tracks on the side on the road to stop at, why not have this minimost boat with a little enclosed race course as an option! That would be neat! You could also run loops of real racing on a little TV while there are waiting in line to race.

Bring it on half-empties lets see what u have to say about that one. LOL!

Disclaimer: This is harmless debate. I am smiling and having fun while writing this, there is no ill sentiments meant here.

[Dave_E71]

...... and it would also be great for some of the old timers(70+?) around the pits ........

Does this mean I have to get dad one of these and take away his new 125 rig?

[mercguy]

Now ya started old timers and little kids ----hey when I'm to old to race at speeds over 100 I'll stop drivin and put someone in my boats(in some cases already do) don't put old timers in the same sentence as kids...and ya 20mph ain't racing everyone knows that. Seems Shawn has his idea to help and is putting up ..We need more put up and less talk..
But ya need new engines if ya can't buy it ya should retire it and race something ya can buy..My first race boat was a Jacoby one step with a
44 merc on a short shaft unit with a two bladed brass prop. early 60's and I did it all by my self Guess why cause I could.. (dam near killed myself but was now hooked for life).
Its what I could by at the local boat shop at the time on Long Island---then I found some alky guy's and got direction into this sport. I believe because we are so specialised today growth with new blood has to come from local
Boat shops..
Pat

if you expect (or hope) any help to come from local boat shops (being a sales point for new motors or even boats), you are gonna have to resort to 4 strokes..............(no small 2 strokes are being sold anymore) and that does not sound very appealing for our type of racing (right now).......so I really do not expect that idea to work out at all. I will have a hydro (or runabout) on display at our new shop we are opening next month, but is really not something you could buy COMPLETE at a dealer, as the motors are specialized, nothing off the dealer shelf...........

this ain't carting or motorcycle racing and DO NOT see a way it (complete outfit for sale and purchased NEW entirely) would be possible at a boat shop. We (kneel down style boat racing) do not have the "numbers" to make it work or profitable for a boat shop...................I also see a liability issue .........

PS: kidz like "cool stuff"...............the minimost is not very cool...........

[Brian10s]

Does this mean I have to get dad one of these and take away his new 125 rig?

Davey,
Can I drive the 125 then??? Please, oh please!!! Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I? Can I?

[MGallagher]

I forgot 70 is the new 50, especially when it comes to your dad(more like the new 20). I was actually thinking about running them together at Lock Haven!

[Jack Stotts]

Hey Matt, watch what you say about us 70 year old guys! Jack

[racnbns]

Ya! Ya! Ya!

Hey Matt, watch what you say about us 70 year old guys! Jack

Right on Jack !

I turned 73 Nov. 10th. and my 250 hydro ain't fast enough.

Bruce
V-81

[HRTV]

Dan-They have snail racing for ------ sake!LOL! Also, given all the races you go to and compete in I don't think the tunnel boat ride should have been your first. j/k

On a serious note, I would love a class like this for my son to start in for the first 2 years and it would also be great for some of the old timers(70+?) around the pits to have some fun on the water on any given weekend.

Matt,

Forget about boat racing and get your son one these for Christmas

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[Tony Staron]

Dan, How was DisneyWorld? I guess you got Gooffey there. Didn't see you at Lake Placid this weekend as you stated you would be there. We had a Mini Most ready for you to drive, guess it was tooooo fast for you. Try to research your topic before you express an opinion. Noliage(Knowledge) OPPs is power, you are sounding powerless to me. This project is to get the public interested in the sport at an affordable price. We have to think about feeding the sport in order for it to grow. Did you know that there is a Briggs& Stratton dealer in almost every town in America. People could buy motors and parts without going through the choas that exist in our sport now. Wow Dan if we had more interest in our sport maybe we have more members.This class is not limited to just a minimost you can run a J hydro or runabout. Dan there has been three new people to join our sport in the last two months. They have built minimost with their childern. Thats three more than we had before. How many new members have you brought into our sport? Happy Holidays

Tony Staron