Reconsider your BSR rules...

[53M]

Kevin: If you're going to engage in argument, you ought to try to be intellectually honest. If you really believe that there is no competitive advantage to a side fin, then first convince your father-in-law not to use one in 25 or C Runabout. Then I'll listen to this absurd argument you've made. Eddie.

Actually I have discussed this with Kevin but last year took a toll on my boat racing budget and am trying to sell a few boats before I can add another------- BUT if you can talk Craig or Vic into lending me a fresh roll up for CSR we will run it at Constantine (and the rest of the season if needed to show they can still win)

[14-H]

*** we will run it at Constantine (and the rest of the season if needed to show they can still win)

Oh I know roll-ups can win at Constantine in any Runabout class. I can still see, in my mind's eye, Richard Lovelace going into the first turn in 11th place and coming out of it in second in his Stippich in 1992, while all of the flat turners were flopping around and falling out of their boat.

Actually, maybe that's the answer to Kevin's delimma: let's change all of the courses and pass a rule so the first turn is a hairpin one (100' wide max) and then all of the old roll-up runabouts will come out of the wood work and run CSR. No one will mandate that the side-finners can't still have their fin so everybody will be peachy happy. Then, CSR would have a drastic increase in membership.

Kevin: you're a genious!

[csh2z]

I've always tried to have some input on the course layout at our local races. If necessary I'd go out and set the course up myself. You can reap many advantages from volunteering to set up a course. If I was a roll-up runabout driver I'd fight for that opportunity every weekend. John 2-Z

[vislaguy]

safety ??

I just wanted to throw something out here and see what people think.I think if you had a side fin and you mounted a bolt thru the top hole but only snugged it up not real tight and you put a nylon bolt in the bottom hole and tighted it up if you hit something hard like a person or a boat(not a bouy) the nylon bolt will break and the fin will swing to the up position as you go over the object. we use a system just like this on a rc trainer plane so when it crashes the wing breaks the nylon bolt and swings instead of ripping off.just food for thought. mike

[18W]

That is why there is HYDROS!!!!!!!!

[jsilvestri]

While everyone has a right to their opinion, it is ridiculous to say that a side-fin runabout is a "sissy" boat or is just like a hydro. Side fin runabouts are still runabouts that require a lot of the same driving skills as a 'roll-up' boat. I've raced several runabout classes with both styles of boats and can attest to this. If the BSR drivers want to keep their class 'roll-up' styled boats only, then so be it. I no longer race the class nor do I see myself racing the class again. However, it is a shame that a side-fin boat, which is legal in all other runabout classes, is not allowed in the BSR class. Allowing the side-fin styled boats into the BSR class may not boost participation, but I do think the option should be available.

As far as safety goes, anytime you step outside of your house, you are taking a risk. I've almost been hit, while riding my motorcyle, several times, but it does not keep me from riding it. Safety is and should always be a factor in racing but I do not feel it is valid in this thread.

[modracer7b]

Right On Joe

The real issue here is protecting the class against the flat turners on a larger (Usually Nationals course). On a small, tight turned, rough water course a roll up runabout is the easy ride. Under those conditions, the flat turner is much more difficult to manage. The solution to anyone that wants to run a flat turner in BSR is to run a roll up with a flat turning outside chine (which will allow you to roll up on tight turns and flat turn on big turns) or flat turn the roll up boat as I did in the 60's ( I'd like to see these real runabout drivers do that nowadays). A properly set up flat turner will turn fine with a bottom fin on an average 3 to 5 pin turn. You just have to take a little more care in setting it up for the turn and start turning it sooner at the entry to the turn. When I used to flat turn the roll up boats without a fin, I was actually sideways before I entered the turn to allow for the extra sideslide. We called it outside chining then.

Bill Rosado

[14-H]

Sissy Boats

36-S: A flat-turning runabout is a sissy-boat! "Ridiculous" is one of the nicer things I've been called recently. 14-H.

[hagerl8m]

you can't see me

Ed,
Don't you own one of these so called sissy boats, or are just the kids running that one now? At least your not trying to throw a fin on your racecraft, remeber wakefield a few years back, i remember someone in the field ripping one off between heats.

[14-H]

Sissy Boats

Chris: as you know, I own several of them: ASR Sorensen, ASR Corner/DeSilva, 25SSR Sorensen. They're still sissy-boats. Ed.

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