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  • APBA National Meeting Updates Stock & General

    Here are the updates from Chicago. They may be paraphrased, hopefully I have them all (and correct)

    New Insurance guidelines are in place - see the Insurance application and also the General Safety Rules

    You are no longer required to start engines only in the hot pits, you can dry fire them at your pit area.

    Ref's & Risk Managers need to make a better effort at returning the checklists.

    New Audio rule applies to drivers in Capsules. Roll Cages etc are exempt.

    Referee has to go onto the water to ensure distances as specified on Insurance App are met.

    A new class has been approved in the Inboard Endurance Category it will be called 6 litre Displacement. It is a UIM class that is also run in Australia.

    A bylaw change 1.4 was made Logos - You can now legally make your own decal ie vinyl / paint, it must be a approved logo - New roostertail, old one with A's slanted, or the chrome for example. The APBA lettering must be 1.75" high x 7.25" long at a minimum.

    A bylaw change to allotted commissioners was changed removing the sanction portion of the bylaw. It confused the office as to how categories were awarded a sanction if a race was combined categories.

    Region 6 had an Inboard bylaw change that now allows a Canadian driver to win Region Hi Points (if they claimed themselves as Region 6)

    Several Timing Rules were changed for Record events

    26.7.b Timer with least elapsed time is the one that will be used

    27.1.a Timing is to 1/100th of a second and speed is now to 2 decimal points

    Race Course Pamphlet - a new 9 & 10 were added (distances)

    26.8 times recorded to 1/100th of a second

    Reference Section add 1/4 mile added as recognized by the UIM


    J Committee

    Divisionals awarded

    Taunton, MA Sept 9,10,11
    Tabor City, NC May 14/15
    Franklin, PA May 28/29
    Cullaby Lake, OR June 25/26

    NAC's for all still in Rock Falls, IL June 25/26

    Marathon Natl's 2nd full weekend in August @ Top O

    Nationals

    2016 - Hinton WV Aug 1-6
    2017 - Grass Lake, MI July 26-31
    2018 - Moses Lake, WA July 30 - Aug 4
    2019 - Wakefield, MI July 29-Aug 3

    OMC AX Restrictor plates (.700) prototype has been extended

    Passed a restart rule for J's, if you are the cause for the stoppage you can't go back out but if the heat is stopped a 2nd time then you can.

    Passed a rule if you are running a prototype then you must place a banner on your motor so officials / drivers know it is a prototype and gets no points

    Passed the rule allowing bungee cords on the motors

    Stock

    Rule changed to mirror Insurance app. Only 1 Rescue boat is required where no restrained boats are present.

    Rescue boat can also function as a turn judge boat (old rule of it must be its only job is no longer in rules) **This part is not new

    Manufacturer reports

    Mercury 15 - 6 in stock, 2 @ HQ, 1 @ Wheeler's, 1 @ JW Myers, 2 @ Region 1

    Yamato - 321's are on order with factory. Montoya has some (30?) on order with several starting to come in. Stock Commission has several on order along with with conversion kits to make the 302's bought by the SORC into 321's. Mike Ward is expecting his shipment on Feb 16.

    Tohatsu - 4 in Stock with Alex Poliakoff, 4 more are on order

    Sidewinder - Currently has 33 15s, 3 15h, 30 20s motors in the field. Approx 30 others are on order and expected to be delivered by Mid May. 20 additional are being built with 50 more to begin being built once delivery of current orders begin.

    WinterNationals

    West - CastleRock, WA - April 30/May 1
    East - Jesup, GA - April 21-24

    2017 East - Tabor City, NC

    Nationals

    2016 - Hinton WV Aug 1-7
    2017 - Grass Lake, MI July 30-Aug 6
    2018 - Moses Lake, WA July 30 - Aug 5
    2019 - Wakefield, MI July 30 - Aug 5

    Marathon Nationals

    2nd full weekend of August 2016,2017,2018,2019

    Divisionals

    Milton, NH June 4/5
    Tabor City, NC May 14/15
    Franklin, PA May 28/29
    Oroville, CA June 11/12

    Marathon Div

    Grass Lake, MI July 9/10

    NAC's

    300SSH & CSR - Kingston, NH Sept 24/25
    CSH, 20SSH, DSH - Cullaby, OR June 25/26

    Rules:

    10.11 new ruling on where a driver finishes if they cause the stoppage of a race and it does not restart

    new 10.12 new rule on when each boat is actually scored. Basically added a clarification in for scorers.

    15.2.c added in that a race that you get dq'd or dnf from (first 14) counts towards hi point totals. another clarification for the office.

    11.13 rule on Marathon starts with a clock, you can move as long as it doesnt hinder other boats.

    5.6 rewritten to clarify it

    Tech change

    new electronic points approved for y80

    new electronic points approved for y102

    approved remounting of coils to anywhere on the y102

    Motor of Choice

    C - Yamato 300 series
    D - Tohatsu
    20 - Yamato 300 series & SW 20s
    25 - none
    300 - Yamato 300 series
    A&B already done

    20 class chose both motors after much discussion. It was decided that a Yamato would be good for the smaller driver and a SW is better for the bigger driver, both motors are currently produced so it was felt that choosing 1 over the other was not in the best interest of the Category.


    Discussion on the rule books being separated was taken to the BOD by Mod & PRO. It was decided that Stock could remain separate. Both MOD & PRO are working on another rewrite to clean up what is currently posted.



    Hopefully that covers the bulk of it and I'm not to far off with my notes.

    Last edited by Howie Nichols; 01-27-2016, 05:50 PM.
    444-B now 4-F
    Avatar photo credit - F. Pierce Williams

  • #2
    Hi Howie,
    Thanks for the info.​ - missed ya this year.
    Do you know if the 'cause of red flag/restart' is only for JH & JR, or for AX classes as well?

    An open question:
    What is the weight differences between the SW 20, Yamato 302, & Yamato 321/'next gen-series'?
    Elek Hutchinson
    36M

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    • #3
      I believe the red flag is only for J.

      The SW is about 60 pounds vs the Yamato 302/321 at 95
      444-B now 4-F
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      • Matt Dagostino
        Matt Dagostino commented
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        I believe the Yamato 302 is 88 pounds????

    • #4
      Howie............is the Motor of Choice declaration in 20ssh going on the Stock Outboard Ballot for a member vote?? Is anything going out to the Stock Outboard members for vote??

      Also...........thanks for taking the time to get some of this info out to the members...))



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      • #5
        No, I dont believe anything qualified for going to ballot this year.
        444-B now 4-F
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        • #6
          Originally posted by Hutch06 View Post
          Hi Howie,
          Thanks for the info.​ - missed ya this year.
          Do you know if the 'cause of red flag/restart' is only for JH & JR, or for AX classes as well?

          An open question:
          What is the weight differences between the SW 20, Yamato 302, & Yamato 321/'next gen-series'?
          If you would take it easy on the brewski's and donuts , you wouldnt have to worry about the weights .

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          • #7
            I was asking for the general public's knowledge

            Originally posted by hoosier View Post
            If you would take it easy on the brewski's and donuts , you wouldnt have to worry about the weights .
            Elek Hutchinson
            36M

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            • #8
              Thanks for the review Howie!



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              • #9
                Sooooo,are the 80 and 102 still legal in 20SSH? Just not the motor of choice?
                Last edited by mercsami; 01-28-2016, 10:51 AM.

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                • Hutch06
                  Hutch06 commented
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                  Sami,
                  Yes this is the case. The original intent (someone can correct me if I'm wrong) behind the motor of choice was to identify a motor which is currently manufactured in order to essentially further clarify what motor the class will be focused on moving forward. In other words, the 80 & 102 aren't taken out of the 20 class, but there won't be a large amount of effort focused on parity of the 80/102 compared to the motor of choice. The same goes for the 15ci Hot Rod in the B classes compared to the 20SW restricted.

                  I believed that the 'motor of choice' was established so it was clearer to racers as to which powerplants to invest in and not be hurt when they are not the 'fastest of the fast' if they do not choose to race with the 'motor of choice'. Especially helpful for 'new-name' racers.

                  I am assuming the SORC is now committed to finding parity between motors of choice if they name multiple 'motors of choice'.
                  Last edited by Hutch06; 01-28-2016, 11:03 AM. Reason: punctuation

                • Matt Dagostino
                  Matt Dagostino commented
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                  Elek.............i wouldn't assume anything regarding Parity. The reason the SORC went to a Motor of Choice was in large part to avoid 'Parity' issues. Perhaps you should consult your SORC reps and see what the deal is or Chairman Brewster

                • Howie Nichols
                  Howie Nichols commented
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                  Elek,
                  You are correct. Matt is just continuing to stir issues

                  The competition committees and the SORC will be keeping an eye on the class or classes that have multiple engines named.

                  You are also correct in stating that motors that are not named will not be given a large amount of focus. They are not forgotten and will not be thrown away, just not given as much focus.

              • #10
                Thank you for the update!

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