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My son Matt Boyes created the program for us in Region 11. Then Pat Gleason from Region 10 hooked up with Matt and they started using it. If you are interested contact Matt . matt@boatracingr11.com and I'am sure he will help you.
My brother puts on a show nationwide in Rodeo called, Worlds Toughest Rodeo. He also puts on some other types of rodeos, such Professional Bull riders, PRC, etc. In each case every entry must be logged in via computer or phone by thursday night at midnight or the person does not ride. Granted, we are talking about an entity bigger than boat racing, but it sure makes his shows go a lot better. (World's Toughest has shows in Madison Square Garden, Houston Astordome, etc). He says this pre registration is vital. I have had to man the phone for him when he has been out of town, and believe me, at ll:55 pm, many riders are still calling in. One time of forgetting and not getting to ride makes for a faster learner because we shut off the phone and computer at midnight. No exceptions.
By the time the rider gets to arena he knows when he rides and how many in his division.
I think we should start this. Our scorers have a hard time the way we do it now.
Connie
I need help with this ,I hear there are some clubs using this . If you have a contact name or a # it would really help
Thanks Paul
Reg11 does and it works out great. I think it needs to be factored in and made MANDITORY in the near future. Saves TONS of time in registration and I believe it makes it work out alot smoother for the "registration crew"...........mandate it!
Please don't mandate this online only, I know there are some computer challenged folks still racing.
At least mail the circular with a phone number they can pre-register at if you will.
Personally I don't ever know if I am going to run one or two classes, or three. I suppose it would make me make up my mind and only do one. Because the schedule always matters if I do.
No offense meant to anyone, I just don't think it should be mandated. Be an option that is strongly reccomended, yes.
While on-line registration works well and really helps the scorer and drivers it is still an aid. It should not be made manitory but encouraged. Dave, you can register on-line for as many classes as you want. Then when you get to the race site just inform the scorer what classes you are to run that day. No big deal.
Please don't mandate this online only, I know there are some computer challenged folks still racing.
At least mail the circular with a phone number they can pre-register at if you will.
Personally I don't ever know if I am going to run one or two classes, or three. I suppose it would make me make up my mind and only do one. Because the schedule always matters if I do.
No offense meant to anyone, I just don't think it should be mandated. Be an option that is strongly reccomended, yes.
well this is a computer age now Dave, so some people need to update their ways of doing things. Just tell them that registering via the internet saves them the hassle of paying for stamps, envelopes, etc, etc, etc and it gets to the person immediately that is accepting the registration forms. How many people still have cassette players, that have not switched to CD players????
Dave, you must still have an 8 track player huh???? Just kiddin!!!!!
PS: we gotta think more about making it easier for the scoring and judges stand crews and this helps them out..........if a person does not have a computer, go to a friend that has one and use his/hers of have them send in the forms for you.........easy enough.......that way, just show up to the race, sign your entree blanks, pay the fees and be on your way. It also helps predetermine the number of enrees for the race......
Dave,
If online is the problem, then make phoning in your entries mandatory. Most people have a phone. We worry about losing racers, but losing scorers and registration personell, to me, seems to be a bigger problem. I know I am getting way to old to do it anymore, and the young people don't want to. It is so much easier to have everything planned before a race as far as pre registration, etc.
Just give up one week end of racing to do registration and scoring only and you will be sold. (Dave, please don't take offense. I know that you and your family help out a lot).
I always tell my brother who puts on the rodeos that boat racers are smarter than cowboys. It took a while for the cowboys to learn that they just can't show up and expect a ride. Because he was able to plan he has now built Worlds Toughest Rodeo into a multi million dollar industry. If the cowboys can adapt, the motorcycle racers, etc, then we can adapt if it means a better run program.
You have seen my family show up to a race many times. One person said once we looked like a band of gypsies. We had ten drivers (husband, kids, grandkids) and two of every class imaginable. We always waited until race day and sometimes drives meetings to decide what we were going to run. Well, we have adapted again. Racing in the USTS has taught us,if nothing else, to be prepared for a couple of classes. Why did we bring so many classes with us before? Truth is is because we probably put everything in the trialer after the last race and hadn't looked at it again until the next one.
So, I respectfully disagree with you. Registration should be mandatory, with some sort of stipulation that if needed you could 'change" a class or drop or added one or two if needed.
Maybe make the driver report that he is registering and leave the classes blank with "probables."
Sure would make things a lot easier and maybe then we could keep some scorers around.
Connie
I have been using the pre registration in region 11 since it became available. When at registration you give them your card and money and sign the entry form, sign the waiver get your wrist band and your done. The scorers need all the help they can get and when they can get most of the registration work done prior to the race it makes their job easier. Remember they are volunteers We have lost some good scorers because of burnout and without scorers we can't race. Pre registration may not be able to used by everybody but if you get 50 or 75 % of the entries done online it makes a big difference.
sometime in the 80s - Region 4 Carolina-Virginia Racing Association ran the stock outboard nationals in Hinton, W Va and the deal was (thumping pointy head in an attempt to shake details loose) pre-register $15/class and register on site coat many more bucks. I seem to recall more'n 90% pre-registered and most of the tedious scorekeeping papoerwork was done before day one of that race.
Races can be sanctoned online, and I agree it is time to make registration an online treat as well - but not mandated yet. I believe the ease of registering online will make a mandate unneccessary.
Have been using on-line registration for more than 5 years
Hello all,
As my father stated earlier, I set up region 11 on-line entry system years ago. I have also set it up for SOA, and have shared my system with other clubs. Years ago, I even gave a demo at a national meeting and there was plans to make it national when RiverInfo was doing APBA's website. That all stopped when APBA went another direction with thier website.
So this system is as flows,
<ul>
<li>People have until xxx date to pre-register my mail or on-line, and can only submit entries to sanctions that have been mailed out. ( I belive it's best to add a penalty cost to not pre-registering, if that is on-line or the snail mail. It really save time for the scorers!)
<li>Fill out the form and either submit it online or print it out (should print on 1 page)
<li>Submit one entry per class per driver (adding another class by hitting back on browser and edit your data)
<li>Entries are sent to scorers via email and also stored in one or more files on the website. (hopefully will somedayI will redo using a database)
<li>Scorers sends a confirmation
<li> Before race, scores prints entries out onto pre printed page with contract printed.
<li> At race, drivers sign contract and card get imprinted on page with entry. (APBA already accpets these types or entries)
</ul>
Some day I would like to redo the whole thing and add a database to store the entries and in some way hook it up with Mia C's scoreing program so entries are automatically added to that program. Also currently most of the forms validation has been disabled, I would like to fix those bugs.
Please feel free to contact me. I am more than will to help those interested in setting something up. There is still more room for improvement but the system currently works great for two region for many years now. I think it really helps scores out and our drivers seem to really like it. I don't want to see this foreced on scores how don't want it and on-line registration should not be manditory, however I do think pre-registration should be. I have seen many drivers meetings and races starting late because of registration taking too long. This really helps speed up the process and make it easier on the scorers.
Save me 10 bucks on entry fee for doing it online and I will do it everytime with every class. Now you are talking !!! I will even get my Dad to the computer to hunt and peck, well maybe, he don't like computers for much.
I have no problem with pre-registration - just the mandating of methods that you can do it by.
Darren, I still have 8 track, and cassete ! I am pissed cause my new truck (well year old now) did not have a tape player in it, only CD. I don't own any CD's..... Lets do some math:
Collection of CD's - at around $15.00 each, lets say 30 cd's, a small collection from what I have seen some have. This equals $450.00
Prop for FEH - $450.00, only one but it has four blades... I think.
Save me 10 bucks on entry fee for doing it online and I will do it everytime with every class. Now you are talking !!! I will even get my Dad to the computer to hunt and peck, well maybe, he don't like computers for much.
I have no problem with pre-registration - just the mandating of methods that you can do it by.
Darren, I still have 8 track, and cassete ! I am pissed cause my new truck (well year old now) did not have a tape player in it, only CD. I don't own any CD's..... Lets do some math:
Collection of CD's - at around $15.00 each, lets say 30 cd's, a small collection from what I have seen some have. This equals $450.00
Prop for FEH - $450.00, only one but it has four blades... I think.
National Title - Priceless.
hey Dave, where do ya buy your 8 tracks and cassettes nowadays????
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