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  • 302 Super Stock Hydro

    Well racers...we finally have all the rules together for the new class coming up! We will have a complete setup on display at Grass Lake...I am buying the first motor, Jeff Brewster is providing the boat (a really fast Furnel) and Vic Brinkman is getting us a spec prop. I will be testing the boat, hopefully on Monday....time to get rolling with this!

    302 Super Stock Hydro (302SSH)

    The general safety and racing rules / Stock Outboard racing and safety rules shall prevail in all situations not specifically covered in the following rules.
    Intent: To have what could be our first ever “Stock” outboard class in APBA racing. This class shall lower barriers to entry, have very low start up costs and provide a place for new members to hone their racing skills before making a transition into the faster classes. It will also offer a class to current drivers that no longer wish to race at higher speeds.
    Governing of class rules: Each year the Stock Outboard Chairman may appoint up to four members to join the Chair on the 302 Super Stock Committee. This committee will act as an advisory board to the SORC to keep the original intent of the class moving forward.
    Hulls: Most current 20SSH, 25SSH or CSH type of boats should meet the specifications below:
    a. After plane length shall not be less that 69”. (measured from the trailing edge of the sponsons to the trailing edge of the bottom)
    b. A minimum depth measurement of 2” between the bottom of the hull and the bottom of the sponson at the trailing edge of the sponson.
    c. A minimum bottom width of the hull measured between the sponsons and air traps of 35”.
    d. A minimum overall boat length not to be less than 9’ 10”

    The driver has the option to purchase a used hull, build one or buy a new one from recognized boat builders.

    Engines: The Model 302 Yamato engine must be purchased from Ric Montoya of RPM Marine for a base price of $2660.00 + shipping. Before shipping or buyer pickup, Ric will ensure the following:

    a. The following seals are in place:
    i. Intake to crankcase
    ii. Crankcase to block
    iii. Block to exhaust port cover
    b. All EPA paperwork has been completed.
    c. An operational kill switch plug has been installed.
    d. New piston rings have been installed.
    e. The exhaust housing has been flattened.
    f. The gear foot meets all 302SSH measurements with the stock 16mm prop shaft.
    g. A 302SSH two blade propeller is provided.


    Engine Specifications: All current model 302 specifications for the CSH and CSR classes apply except for:

    a. The 14mm cylinder head must meet a minimum thickness dimension of 1.440”
    b. Aftermarket steering bars and thrust brackets are permitted.
    c. The fuel tank must remain stock. No fuel pumps permitted.
    d. Gear foot minimum measurements. See the Stock Outboard Technical manual for the 302 Yamato engine gear foot diagrams:
    W = 2.245 min.
    Z1 = 0.200 min.
    Z2 = 0.195 min.
    Z3 = 0.155 min.
    Z4 = 0.160 min.
    Bulge thickness = 0.225 min.
    Skeg radius (leading and trailing) = 7/64 min.
    Nose cone leading radius = 7/16 min.
    Top of gear foot leading radius (above nose cone) = 7/64 min.
    Top of gear foot trailing radius (above cone nut) = 17/64 min.


    Weight: Total as raced will be a minimum of 440 lbs.

    Age: Minimum is 16 years with no maximum.

    Speed: It is the intent of this class to have a maximum speed of 60 mph. If the class exceeds this speed, restrictions will be set to reduce the speed as needed.
    Propshaft depth: The class will have a limitation on where the engine’s propshaft may be mounted. The propshaft location shall be the distance between the center of the propshaft at its aft end, and the planing surface. The measurement of the engine height shall be “as raced” with the engine turned straight (propshaft in-line with the fore-aft centerline of the boat). This rule does apply to boats running in straightaway trials. The prop shaft depth will be not less than 1 3/8” below the planing surface as explained above.

    Propellers: All entries will race the 302 Super Stock propellers provided with the engines. An engine owner only owns the rights to “a” propeller and not a specific propeller. At driver’s meeting the day of the race all propellers from the entries in the class will be turned in to the race inspector (or a person designated by the inspector). The race inspector (or designee) will place one propeller each in a bag or box to conceal it. A driver will then pull a number from a hat that corresponds with the number on the box or bag. This will also occur in inspection after the first heat of racing has been completed.




    Repair Centers: The following gentlemen have accepted the responsibility of being an authorized repair center for the class:
    - East Jerry Davids Sr.
    - Midwest Tom Johnston
    - Northwest Ric Montoya
    - Southwest Roger Carr
    There will be only four authorized centers and the centers will be appointed each year by the Stock Outboard Chairman. They will provide all internal mechanical repair and refresh for the sealed portions of the engine. The estimated cost for a refresh is $250.00 plus shipping. A repair center may also inspect a previously raced 302 engine and detune the engine to make it legal for this class. Those costs will be determined by the repair center. Once their work is completed, they will re-seal the engine and therefore approve it for racing.

    National High Points: All Stock Outboard rules apply except that only three entries are required to receive national points.

    Records: All Stock Outboard records will be approved for the class. All straightaway records will be in the competition set up. Those drivers setting the first record will not receive APBA Hall of Champion points.

    Once approved, all rules stated above will be added to the 2013 Stock Outboard Technical Manual, Safety Rules & Racing Rules.

    Respectfully submitted by,
    Jeff Brewster
    Stock Outboard Chairman
    April 30, 2012

    (All rules have been approved by an affirmative vote of the APBA Board of Directors)

  • #2
    Excellent work guys. This will truly make the new guy competitive. Again, nice job.
    Shawn Breisacher

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    • #3
      Not knowning anything about CSH really... is there anything here that would make this outfit illegal in CSH/20SSH? What slows it down to 60 mph? Just prop depth and prop? Or is there a restrictor?

      If I push this to new people, I want to know if there are only one or two outfits at a race, can they still have fun and run in the pack, but at the back of the pack speed wise if they just buy a proper CSH wheel and shaft shim with a second shear pin hole in the prop to suit location on the 16mm shaft?
      Fralick Racing
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      • #4
        Andrew- This is set up so someone could interchange and race CSH/20ss. They would be a little slower possibly because the motor could not be touched (seals must remain to race this class). But the powerhead will be legal in an APBA "C" class. Biggest dispariety is the gear case. The gear case is as is from Japan (including 16 mm prop shaft) and it is significally different than how our gear cases are shaped. Best senerio is someone racing this class could buy a second gear case to shape like we do now with a 9/16 prop shaft. Then they can put that shaped gear case on after racing 302SSH to run CSH/20ssh.

        302SSH will not have a restrictor. What slows it down is the gear case shape, the way the powehead comes from Japan (STOCK), The prop draw (not knowing what the prop will do/not being able to shape blades orfind a 'faster' prop on your own), and the very low prop shaft depth. That gear case shape really does make a difference is what i've been told though...
        Last edited by Racerkyle20; 06-29-2012, 06:44 AM.
        Kyle Bahl
        20-R

        "He didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you, he rubbed you, and rubbin' son is racin'!"

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        • #5
          Excellent. Thank you.
          Fralick Racing
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          • #6
            We're all gonna need rub rails. Can't wait.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by AZ Outlaw View Post
              We're all gonna need rub rails. Can't wait.


              Ha-ha! We will need "Rubber Baby Buggy Bumpers"!!!!
              http://www.stockoutboard.com/

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              • #8
                302 Super Stock Hydro

                I want to thank everybody for support given for this project...who knows..I may just sell my D stock stuff and race this class next year. One minor thing..the setup will be on display at Grass Lake...I will hopefully be testing it Monday of race week, with the race chairman's permission of course, not this upcoming Monday. Not sure if rig will be available for other racers to try....see you all at Grass Lake!

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                • #9
                  ....someone has gotta say this, eventhough it is obviously a done deal. What does this class do that a decent used A rig wouldn't do ? My humble opinion will remain that our sport did not, does not need more classes.

                  APBA needs an inexpensive single event membership and clubs need a 'loaner ' boat,or two, to make it easy for a brand new participant to try a race experience.

                  I hope I'm wrong ,but I don't see this ploy amounting to much. It is ,however, encouraging to see people trying to encourage participation by whatever means.

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                  • #10
                    The price is shown as $2660.00.. Rick is advertising this motor for $2095.00 in
                    his ad here on H/R.. Shall we all assume the additional cost is meet the criteria
                    that is stated in the section called out as a. i.,,ii.,,iii., and b thru g.???
                    Just courious... Have pondered putting my 16 year-old grandson in a boat to
                    take my place. Engine selection has been the main issue to keep my money in the bank.
                    Is there really any "STOCK" classes anymore??? Any 2 cyl. driver willing to help with
                    enthusiasm would be greatly appreciated... Please email me at dviola2@cox.net.
                    Last edited by runabout333; 06-29-2012, 08:24 PM.



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                    • #11
                      Nice job guys and a best of luck! If this has the same success as Novice-C here in Region 10, you have a sure-fire winner on your hands.
                      http://vitalire.com/

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                      • #12
                        Dave, what is e. exhaust housing flattened? Never heard of that.
                        bill b

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                        • #13
                          Here is your answers for total engine cost runabout333

                          Originally posted by runabout333 View Post
                          The price is shown as $2660.00.. Rick is advertising this motor for $2095.00 in
                          his ad here on H/R.. Shall we all assume the additional cost is meet the criteria
                          that is stated in the section called out as a. i.,,ii.,,iii., and b thru g.???
                          Just courious... Have pondered putting my 16 year-old grandson in a boat to
                          take my place. Engine selection has been the main issue to keep my money in the bank.
                          Is there really any "STOCK" classed anymore??? Any 2 cyl. driver willing to help with
                          enthusiasm would be greatly appreciated... Please email me at dviola2@cox.net.
                          302 engine costs:
                          Base cost 2095.00
                          Kill switch 40.00
                          Foot shaping 100.00
                          Block sealing 100.00
                          Exhaust cover 50.00
                          Re-ring 250.00
                          Propeller 150.00
                          Total 2660.00 + shipping
                          http://www.stockoutboard.com/

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bill boyes View Post
                            Dave, what is e. exhaust housing flattened? Never heard of that.
                            Bill,
                            This is done to most engines that are "built". The manifold tends to come warped and our mechanics out there fix this problem for us. This is just another step to make sure the engines are as equal as possible.
                            Jeff
                            http://www.stockoutboard.com/

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Racerkyle20 View Post
                              someone racing this class could buy a second gear case to shape like we do now with a 9/16 prop shaft. Then they can put that shaped gear case on after racing 302SSH to run CSH/20ssh.
                              Where does restrictor go for 20ssh? If its between carb and case, is that a sealed area isn't it?


                              From above...

                              a. The following seals are in place:
                              i. Intake to crankcase

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