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  • #31
    Why was there only two bouys turns at a stock divisionals?? Looks like they set it up for tunnel boats and flat bottoms. Atleast the water looked clean.

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    • #32
      High Stakes Poker

      Here is an idea…

      Assuming both drivers already plan on going to nationals, have them each run a separate time trial @ Grass Lake the morning of the CSH elims. The time trial could be 1, 2 or 3 laps and could start like a typical race with a 3 min gun, or the clock could just start whenever the driver crosses the start/finsh line.

      The driver with the fastest time is awarded the divisional title, including 800pts for the divisional event, a spot in the CSH final and will be eligible to claim the ½ of hall of champions point.

      The other driver is awarded 600pts for the divisional race and will have to qualify in one of the elimination heats for the final .

      This would only take about 10-15 minutes and would be a very intense way to decide who gets in.

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      • #33
        atta boy Kyle, that sounds like a great plan!

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        • #34
          Nationals

          I think they ought to have a cage fight. We could sell tickets. The winner gets into the finals. Perfect solution.

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          • #35
            NO Tie

            If two tie everyone ties....put them all in. As a matter of fact send everyone that raced CSH last year a trophy, we can meet at Grass Lake and have champions party and all have our picture together.....just like my daughter's soccer league, why keep score at all?

            Yes, mistakes happen and we all race with volunteers directing and sincerely appreciate our volunteers thank you for all of your hard work. The non timed heat needed to be re run. This was not a local race and you can't have a tie in this circumstance. There should be no qualifier at this race. Were both engines inspected for a Divisional qualifier?

            If anything allow an exception for a CSH hydro divisional race at a future site and as long as that race meets the criteria then a qualifier is determined.

            The rest of the CSH hydro field should not be stripped of an open slot to qualify for the finals when Grass Lake qualifying heats are run. Someone should have protested this outcome at he race.

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            • #36
              I agree with Scott, except region 12 has paid help....???

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              • #37
                Originally posted by reed28n View Post
                Were both engines inspected for a Divisional qualifier?
                Why don't you call the chief inspector of APBA, who was the chief inspector at this race instead of posting an insinuating question like that. Thanks
                Last edited by AZ Outlaw; 04-17-2012, 06:22 PM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by AZ Outlaw View Post
                  Why don't you call the chief inspector of APBA, who was the chief inspector at this race instead of posting an insinuating question like that. Thanks
                  How is a direct question insinuating?

                  I lost a first place in the first heat of ASH last year at Cullaby Lake Western Divisionals for this exact reason. No times or some timing issue, and we re-ran the heat, by the book.

                  Scott said it as it should be, since a mistake was made, the CSH W. Div needs to be re-run or no one gets a birth.

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                  • #39
                    There many things that can go wrong with timing. Run out of paper, Batteries go flat, Timer brain fart. etc. We use 2 each timers at Championship events. We did it at the Orovile Nationals.We had not one timing issue. But that is hind sight. Just need to move on.
                    bill b

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                    • #40
                      Allow both in finals. Its not there fault the equipment didnt work.

                      Im assuming both Tony and Kyle will be attending the Nationals, however maybe ask that question in case one isnt. If so will make a easy fix.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ricochet112 View Post
                        How is a direct question insinuating?

                        I lost a first place in the first heat of ASH last year at Cullaby Lake Western Divisionals for this exact reason. No times or some timing issue, and we re-ran the heat, by the book.

                        Scott said it as it should be, since a mistake was made, the CSH W. Div needs to be re-run or no one gets a birth.
                        I was referring to the inspection question, and nothing else.
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                        • #42
                          Beautiful

                          Originally posted by daveracerdsh View Post
                          I think they ought to have a cage fight. We could sell tickets. The winner gets into the finals. Perfect solution.
                          Now that's my kind of idea
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                          • #43
                            Scott, Both tony and I were inspected like a divisional winner.

                            Ask the scsc region 12 race committee any other questions regarding timing.

                            Kyle Hannon, love that idea. Dave, also love your idea. Lol
                            Kyle Bahl
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                            • #44
                              Insulting?

                              Originally posted by AZ Outlaw View Post
                              Why don't you call the chief inspector of APBA, who was the chief inspector at this race instead of posting an insinuating question like that. Thanks
                              Simply a question.... hydro racer often misses the point.

                              Timing issue or not the heat should have been re run. My tongue and cheek is often taken too seriously. You had 8 Bona fide starters to establish the Divisional qualifier even though all 8 could not restart someone would have still qualified.

                              Allowing two qualifiers? That would be a mistake..........plenty of things can happen for one reason or another at a race.....but the race committee hosting a champioship race has requested the approval of the SORC for the event and has accepted the responsibility to avoid things like this from happening.

                              8. The referee may call for the restart of a heat under the following circumstances:
                              A. if officials or their equipment have performed in error,
                              B. if officials have failed to record those boats jumping the gun, or

                              Not intended to offend anyone! I love APBA, I appreciate the efforts of all volunteers, I even like all of the drivers involved, hell I'll even throw in "I like Ed Hearn". I am just stating an opinion of a topic. My boat probably won't even be built in time to race CSH at Grass Lake. My boat builder is really poor with timelines.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by AZ Outlaw View Post
                                I was referring to the inspection question, and nothing else.
                                "Yes, mistakes happen and we all race with volunteers directing and sincerely appreciate our volunteers thank you for all of your hard work. The non timed heat needed to be re run. This was not a local race and you can't have a tie in this circumstance. There should be no qualifier at this race. Were both engines inspected for a Divisional qualifier? "


                                So was I. There was zero insinuation in Scotts question.

                                A simple honest direct question to the point, with no jabs, pokes, sarcasm, atitutde, tone, emoticons...wow why so sensative; were you the race director, timer or Ref?

                                It is a very important question, if they both were to get in to the finals, and if there was some type of playoff they would both have had to be inspected.

                                So now we know they were and all is good.

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