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YOU are right Chicago Paul
Allow me to ramble from one thing to another in this post. I love boatracing and am watching good folks with good ideas, willing to come forward to propose changes that could be and are needed. I have been told by my wife, we had six children, that the only person who likes change is a baby.
Someone needs to really look closely at the arguements here. Some are based on, ''I like me first, who do you like?" Harsh, yes, but go back and look at this. Some of you want to run stock only, some Mod only, some mix them up, but all have a version of the truth.
What I see is some clubs have a goal to be self sufficient and run only what they are deigned to do, Stock or Mod with no other catagories. The Title Series joins with those that are in that mood. We run only Pro classes at all races--I hear you at Depue with OSY400. However the concept brought forth was the right one for the Title Series. It has proven to be successful and continues on. Does that mean I am recommending that you go all over the country to race. Not hardly. We are limited in numbers and to allow us to reach the kind of entries needed to run a successful program, we have done what we needed to do. could we run in the midwest and draw pretty good numbers, absolutely, but within certain classes only. Running everyone at one race we end up with more than 12 in many classes. This makes the 3 heat format, all the more enticing. You get two heats, no matter what.
Looking at that model, what can we learn for all catagories of outboards. You can look at the Title Series and say, well they run all over the country and I do not want to do that. Do we have classes that might run 5 or 6 boats, yes. That is a story of cost benefit for the capsules to sort out. But, overall the Title Series remains successful in putting races on around the country.
Now what if the stock clubs in the midwest decided that they could do 4 club races and 4 Title Series type races, coordinating dates and making sure that the classes needed to run could with multiple clubs committed to a race. The old IPBA and IOA did this for many years and 10-18 boats per class were the norm. You cannot tell me that this is not a possibility if the Wisconsin bunch and the IOA would do that in the Mod Classes. Nor could you say it if the Michigan and Wisconsin bucnch did it in Stock. What if IOA and a couple of the Mod Clubs could do the same, do you think that the newbie might look at this as a place to learn and to race against the best???? Getting the NBRA guys and APBA guys together would do the same thing.
Paul is right, set the rules that everyone can depend on and go for it. When i hear the word stock I am always amused as to what that means, Blueprinting, shaving units, etc, etc. This old 44 powehead is not competitive with this one, Why what changed, but still made it stock????
What kind of engines are out there, Yamaha, Merc, etc. that you could take the powerhead and run it as a stock motor? When I go to a stock race and look at the number of classes that Yamoto's are able to run in Stock/Mod, it becomes a no brainer. A hydro and runabout combo could run what, six classes?
Enough of my rambling, but we have as Thomas Edison said, "rules, there are no rules, we have a problem to solve." He also said as a scientist, the words he loved most in his time in the lab????? "Hmmn, that's interesting."
Ray
Allow me to ramble from one thing to another in this post. I love boatracing and am watching good folks with good ideas, willing to come forward to propose changes that could be and are needed. I have been told by my wife, we had six children, that the only person who likes change is a baby.
Someone needs to really look closely at the arguements here. Some are based on, ''I like me first, who do you like?" Harsh, yes, but go back and look at this. Some of you want to run stock only, some Mod only, some mix them up, but all have a version of the truth.
What I see is some clubs have a goal to be self sufficient and run only what they are deigned to do, Stock or Mod with no other catagories. The Title Series joins with those that are in that mood. We run only Pro classes at all races--I hear you at Depue with OSY400. However the concept brought forth was the right one for the Title Series. It has proven to be successful and continues on. Does that mean I am recommending that you go all over the country to race. Not hardly. We are limited in numbers and to allow us to reach the kind of entries needed to run a successful program, we have done what we needed to do. could we run in the midwest and draw pretty good numbers, absolutely, but within certain classes only. Running everyone at one race we end up with more than 12 in many classes. This makes the 3 heat format, all the more enticing. You get two heats, no matter what.
Looking at that model, what can we learn for all catagories of outboards. You can look at the Title Series and say, well they run all over the country and I do not want to do that. Do we have classes that might run 5 or 6 boats, yes. That is a story of cost benefit for the capsules to sort out. But, overall the Title Series remains successful in putting races on around the country.
Now what if the stock clubs in the midwest decided that they could do 4 club races and 4 Title Series type races, coordinating dates and making sure that the classes needed to run could with multiple clubs committed to a race. The old IPBA and IOA did this for many years and 10-18 boats per class were the norm. You cannot tell me that this is not a possibility if the Wisconsin bunch and the IOA would do that in the Mod Classes. Nor could you say it if the Michigan and Wisconsin bucnch did it in Stock. What if IOA and a couple of the Mod Clubs could do the same, do you think that the newbie might look at this as a place to learn and to race against the best???? Getting the NBRA guys and APBA guys together would do the same thing.
Paul is right, set the rules that everyone can depend on and go for it. When i hear the word stock I am always amused as to what that means, Blueprinting, shaving units, etc, etc. This old 44 powehead is not competitive with this one, Why what changed, but still made it stock????
What kind of engines are out there, Yamaha, Merc, etc. that you could take the powerhead and run it as a stock motor? When I go to a stock race and look at the number of classes that Yamoto's are able to run in Stock/Mod, it becomes a no brainer. A hydro and runabout combo could run what, six classes?
Enough of my rambling, but we have as Thomas Edison said, "rules, there are no rules, we have a problem to solve." He also said as a scientist, the words he loved most in his time in the lab????? "Hmmn, that's interesting."
Ray
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