APBA members it is time to get answers!!

[14-H]

We have an African American as President are blacks any better off? I fail to see the correlation.

Dan: Rex complained that the knee-downers have no power. The fact that the last 2 out of 3 Presidents (including the current one) are kneel-downers, I believe, directly responds to this claim. I am sorry that you don't see the correlation.

By the way, the color of the U.S. President's skin is irrelevant. The guy is a liberal and that is why no one is better off. "When the producers have less power and make less money than the looters, the end is near." -Ayn Rand.

[hshawwpba]

Dan: Rex complained that the knee-downers have no power. The fact that the last 3 Presidents (including the current one) are kneel-downers, I believe, directly responds to this claim. I am sorry that you don't see the correlation.

By the way, the color of the U.S. President's skin is irrelevant. The guy is a liberal and that is why no one is better off. "When the producers have less power and make less money than the looters, the end is near." -Ayn Rand.

The last time Mark Weber kneeled down was not in a boat trust me! But he did enjoy the profits of the presidency like the person you refer to in the above in the qoute!

[14-H]

The last time Mike Weber kneeled down was not in a boat trust me! But he did enjoy the profits of the presidency like the person you refer to in the above in the qoute!

Howard: I edited my statement: last 2 of 3. And it was Mark Weber that was President, not Mike.

I rest my case!

[hshawwpba]

Howard: I edited my statement: last 2 of 3. And it was Mark Weber that was President, not Mike.

I rest my case!

Tameto - Tamato niether has been in an Outboard, now Steve on the other hand does have experiance in real racing on his knees!

BUY THE WAY, JUST A FACT THAT WAS POINTED OUT ABOUT YOUR OTHER POST:


If you wish to respond to 14-H the facts are that Mike Jones term in office expired on October 31, 2002 the Judge was not appointed to "Run APBA" until the Spring of 2003. Subsequent to October 31, 2002 Mike Jones had no official capacity with APBA.

During Mike Jones term in office from 1998 to 2002 - APBA financial's and budgets were bound and distributed to all Board Members, Council Members and Category VP's annually - as well as any other member that requested them.

Any questions regarding the finances of APBA were answered directly and honestly by me (APBA Treasurer) during Mikes time in office. Most if not all of these inquires by membership were answered in writing.

But - why would an attorney let the facts get in the way.

Jake

[hshawwpba]

Howard: In case you have forgotten, there were no budgets given to the APBA members and the Association was being administered by a Judge in Buffalo, New York, the last time Mr. Jones was President.

(Sorry to pour salt on old wounds, but it appears that you don't know what the hell you are talking about).

WELL HERE ARE THE FACTS:

I WILL AWAIT YOU APPOLOGY AND THANKS FOR THE FREE SALT!!!

If you wish to respond to 14-H the facts are that Mike Jones term in office expired on October 31, 2002 the Judge was not appointed to "Run APBA" until the Spring of 2003. Subsequent to October 31, 2002 Mike Jones had no official capacity with APBA.

During Mike Jones term in office from 1998 to 2002 - APBA financial's and budgets were bound and distributed to all Board Members, Council Members and Category VP's annually - as well as any other member that requested them.

Any questions regarding the finances of APBA were answered directly and honestly by me (APBA Treasurer) during Mikes time in office. Most if not all of these inquires by membership were answered in writing.

But - why would an attorney let the facts get in the way.

Jake

[Hutch06]

Write-In's

If someone wishes to run for BOD as a write-in, I suggest you should at the very very least post here or on the APBA forum what platform you plan to run on.

I have no problem voting for a write-in, but I do have a problem promoting someone as a write-in when the APBA membership has no idea what the write-in's ideas, opinions, and "mission statement" are.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about this.

[Affholter66]

Write In's

If someone wishes to run for BOD as a write-in, I suggest you should at the very very least post here or on the APBA forum what platform you plan to run on.

I have no problem voting for a write-in, but I do have a problem promoting someone as a write-in when the APBA membership has no idea what the write-in's ideas, opinions, and "mission statement" are.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about this.

You aren't the only one Hutch...

[Big Don]

APBA has always been about big money, the Unlimiteds and the off shore racers. The grass roots drivers in stock, mod and pro are the backbone of the orginization, but are tolerated just for the membership dues. We have very little representation and almost no input in what is going on. I agree with Howard and Bill and would like to see where our money is going to help our sport grow.

Off of memory isn’t at least 8 members of the board kneel down racers? I think that would be a majority. Fairchild who dabbles in outboards... maybe 9.

[hshawwpba]

If someone wishes to run for BOD as a write-in, I suggest you should at the very very least post here or on the APBA forum what platform you plan to run on.

I have no problem voting for a write-in, but I do have a problem promoting someone as a write-in when the APBA membership has no idea what the write-in's ideas, opinions, and "mission statement" are.

I'm sure I'm not the only one curious about this.

TRUST ME IT IS NOT A PLATFORM THAT SUPPORTS THE CURRENT WASTE OF APBA FUNDS AND EXPENDITURES ON PROGRAMS THAT DUE NOT HAVE ROI (return on investment).
It is time for change, the past 10 years have taken the APBA from a solvent 1 million in assest organization to a finacilly destressed organization full of special interest and grandious ideas that have proven to be a drain not only on the APBA but sanctions declines and memebrship declines never seen before.
I have been an active member of APBA for 50 years, race chairmen, commissioner, offical, and volunteer as the majority of good APBA racers and offical that are frustrated with current status of APBA have been. I just can not contiune to not speak up and try and make a differance as I would hope many of those who are also feed up will jump on the band wagon and DEMAND CHANGE!

Thanks for asking, look forward to your vote!
Howard Shaw R10 # 1487

[hshawwpba]

Off of memory isn’t at least 8 members of the board kneel down racers? I think that would be a majority. Fairchild who dabbles in outboards... maybe 9.

With all do respect just becuase you drive an outboard does not mean you have common sense or will take a stand aginst insantiy!!
F1 is an outboard and very fast and fun to watch but they still sit down as do the big pro classes that have been made to capsulize and how is the growth in these classes working these days?

Thanks for your 2 cents worth.
R10 #1487

[Big Don]

So Howard what are you actually going to do. I read the above post and am not sure what you’re saying other than your not happy with the direction. And trust me I’m not drinking the kool-aid, there are several things I’m not happy about so what is your actual agenda?

And is the Mike Jones your asking for us to write in, the same Mike Jones that caused the Don Allen, SR. being appointed APBA President by the NY court following the Jones/Jake led Sea-Tac agreement. Just making sure it’s not the same one…or confirming it is the same one.

[Big Don]

With all do respect just becuase you drive an outboard does not mean you have common sense or will take a stand aginst insantiy!!
F1 is an outboard and very fast and fun to watch but they still sit down as do the big pro classes that have been made to capsulize and how is the growth in these classes working these days?

Thanks for your 2 cents worth.
R10 #1487

Howard funny how you read what you want or interpret how you want. I was just answering Mr Halls post of Stocks, Mod and Pro are the backbone but we have very little representation. “We”, if you want to look at it that way, have the majority on the BOD so we should be able to control the vote. Never once did I say they voted how you feel they should. Rex said we have very little representation and I was just pointing out that we do. If he does not like how “OUR” kneel down BOD members vote and are leading that is entirely different.

[hshawwpba]

Howard: This is totally out of line. The subject of APBA's financials is gone over EVERY year at the APBA Annual Meeting. To suggest that anyone at APBA in the recent past has not been up-front about where the money goes and how it is spent is totally disengeuous and you know this, having attended many APBA Annual Meetings yourself. A budget is produced and distributed to APBA member at each Annual Meeting and has been so every year since the APBA corporate dispute began nearly a decade ago.

If you don't like the direction of the Organization, that is fair. Some don't agree with the recent changes the BOD have made. The overwhelming majority of members do, however. But to suggest to others that there has been some "hide-the-ball" going on with regard to the APBA financials is just plain false and you know it!

I just checked that latest fiancial info sent out plus the last APBA meeting notes and I as other "see below" do not see the line expenditures for the Spec boat or Crowne Media program.
I am sure they are not hidding anything probably just an oversight!
OR IS THE "OTHER" PLACES APBA PUTS $$ that to me has the smell of a RAT!

Here is a response from a region chairman:

This is the only budget I have seen and I don’t see the
Spec Boat status costs and/or the Crowne costs in it.
Maybe I do not know where to look? I know there have
been discussions at Board Meetings of the “other” APBA
place they put $$... forget the name of it. Steve Hearn
talked about it a couple of times. I had never heard of it
before Steve Hearn mentioned it.

R 10 # 1487

[hshawwpba]

Howard funny how you read what you want or interpret how you want. I was just answering Mr Halls post of Stocks, Mod and Pro are the backbone but we have very little representation. “We”, if you want to look at it that way, have the majority on the BOD so we should be able to control the vote. Never once did I say they voted how you feel they should. Rex said we have very little representation and I was just pointing out that we do. If he does not like how “OUR” kneel down BOD members vote and are leading that is entirely different.

Thanks for your comments, we all have opions and I respect yours on this subject.
Have great day!.

[Hutch06]

Agenda/Idea/Platform

So Howard what are you actually going to do. I read the above post and am not sure what you’re saying other than your not happy with the direction. And trust me I’m not drinking the kool-aid, there are several things I’m not happy about so what is your actual agenda

I agree with what Big Don says.

Howard, I think what we're looking for is more than just a two-sentence 'this-has-got-to-change' stance. I am in agreement with that, but we need to know what your thoughts/position is to change it. By just saying by not investing on 0% ROI's and such doesn't really give us an idea of what the platform is.

You might not have it all hammered out currently but I believe what we are looking for is a more detailed statement of what you would plan to do as a member of the BOD to change things. I think you've struck peoples' interest enough to at least consider it - as long as there are solid details and explanations involved.