DS Runabout

[HydroKyle93R]

Im too fat! Sike..

lol. I'm too small for what we got. Dennis, I know where you're coming from. It would be cool to get that class rollin, however, who else in R10 would run with us? Maybe we should get the word out we will be running the 750R and attempt to run the DSR next year. I'll holla at the SOA club meeting next time I drop in.

I'll see what Meatb--- Dave thinks about a weight reduction proposal. Just for you buddy!

See ya next week man. I'm lookin forward to our last little trip. I hope you can come pick me up. I can't find a ride over there...

[jeff55v]

weight

Somebody help me out here. How did the no weight restriction for DMR come to be? Or has it always been that way?
I'm not complaining...just asking.

[mercguy]

Somebody help me out here. How did the no weight restriction for DMR come to be? Or has it always been that way?
I'm not complaining...just asking.

I think ALL classes should have minumum weights...........levels the playing field better!!! I hear even OSY400 could have a minimum weight soon............

sorry Dennis, but "banana boy" is just too small for DSR..........it should be a "big boy" class............not many other places "we" can be competitive........a 160lb driver can pretty much race every class and be competitive, but the 200lb+ driver does not have that many options.........heck, bump up the weight in DSR to 530!

[dwestby]

WE will be running DSR next year at Nationals. Hope you like cheese I figure 5 lbs of cheese and 5 burger per day and in a week and you make weight. Think we are picking up wood in Portand next Thurday after I pick you up. NO room for the our hydro this trip just yours. Have two to bring back + yours talk to you friday Nite. On another post they said the is only 3 reg DSR I thought there was 8 might not even be a class for us next year anyway

[dwestby]

I think ALL classes should have minumum weights...........levels the playing field better!!! I hear even OSY400 could have a minimum weight soon............

sorry Dennis, but "banana boy" is just too small for DSR..........it should be a "big boy" class............not many other places "we" can be competitive........a 160lb driver can pretty much race every class and be competitive, but the 200lb+ driver does not have that many options.........heck, bump up the weight in DSR to 530!

Banana boy sorry that was figuring that I was driving the DSR I still have to add about 85#+++++ of weight to make weight. I might be old but the anger mangerment class and the social skill classes are kicking in just need getting in and out of the runabout last time was a sad site.OOO I am a light 225# and carry it well thank you dennis westby

[mercguy]

the math???

Banana boy sorry that was figuring that I was driving the DSR I still have to add about 85#+++++ of weight to make weight. I might be old but the anger mangerment class and the social skill classes are kicking in just need getting in and out of the runabout last time was a sad site.OOO I am a light 225# and carry it well thank you dennis westby

my math and yours do not add up..........

let's see: 140lb Tohatsu + 225lb driver = 365, thus leaving the boat 150lbs..........if you would have to carry 85lbs, then the boat would only weigh 65lbs!!!!!! Hell, the transom would fall off, if it only weighed 65lbs!! BTW, the Tohatsu will put a LOT more strain on the boat (and transom) compared to a 44mod motor.........is that Gessler boat that light?????????

give em hell in Cali!!!!!!!!

PS: I would give up CSR in a minute and get a DSR, if we had enough of them to race out here. The Tohatsu is a PERFECT motor for DSR!!! But, don't count on me doing it next year, as I might be pretty limited on what I can race in 2011........

PSS: I still gotta "tame" the CMR first though..........ACL knee surgery scheduled in 4wks..........

[ram95]

Up here in Maine we run a slightly different version of DMR. Up here min weight is 1040# and we use a back-hoe to put boats in and out of the watah. Oh yeah.... and the M in DMR stands for Moose.

Any of youse ever been to Dulles airport? Headed for Maine? Probly not. But.. if'n you were.. you'd coulda guessed who wuz the real Mainahs outa the bunch... yup, they were all wearing them Maine Bears sweatshirts, XXL and LLBean bootz of course.

Oh crap... I'm all out of Taylor Cream Sherry (boy that is sum gooooood stuff... sweet... I like sweet!!!).

Alex

[ram95]

Relax

Somebody help me out here. How did the no weight restriction for DMR come to be? Or has it always been that way?
I'm not complaining...just asking.

Nobody's paying any attention to us Jeff, have some more nachos.
Alex

ps: I'm working on that 'create motor'

[dwestby]

Sorry

I got think again and thought the weight was 520# sorry 515 weight I will except 140 for Tohatsu Me a lite 225 with 1.5 gall of fuel still need 68 + of lead or hamberger and cheese. And yes the Runabout is lite and so will be the other new one. Weight does not bother me excees weight in a boat that is add is I think is a safty matter. Not to change this thread put weight at 490 in D. we ran heavey at national and ran way back work on set up and help from Region 10 driver and thank you all for the help we started to run a little faster now we work on props thanks to dave yourself and hallburg (sp)and the other driver i hope we all had fun I did. If it is not fun I am out of here. See those classes are working|||| dennis ooo peters run very fast and I do not want to have him raise his weight just so I can catch him I rather case him and beat him and a even playing field same weight for both and any height. that being said I realy like runabouts time for my warm milk and slice of litly toast white bread

[Gootz 142M]

I was going to mention that Dennis might have a better understanding had he met you and the rest of the boys in person. By the way, are we going to see much of the "real" DSR guys next season?

Hey Ryan,

Yes we plan to run more races next season and look to add some new racers to the class.....See you then!!

[Silas_53A]

wish they had some DSR up here in region one. i've never seen a DSR rig, let alone see them race. and with my new addiction to CSR, DSR seems a logical step in the future.

Closest I've seen was FER and some DMR. buts its always been a '3 boat parade'.

[Dave M]

I agree

[QUOTE=mercguy;167797]I think ALL classes should have minumum weights...........levels the playing field better!!! QUOTE]

750CCMR and 850CCMR and 850CCMH should all have min weights.

I can't recall how it got voted out, seems like a lot happened when the rules combined.....

[Fast Freddie]

I Also Agree

All classes should have minimum weights. However.... back to the subject of the thread.

I remember. The old DSR weight was 505# and 10# was added to accomodate the Tohatsu! The 505# weight was too heavy. I had to add considerable weight to my DSR back in the late 90s and I go over 215#. Dan had to add a lot! Maybe 500# would still accomodate us heavier guys and the lighter drivers can still run by adding a reasonable amount of lead.

The minimum weight was removed from DMR (pardon, 750ccMR ) by the MORC back when there were few entries in DMR (like 3 at the Nationals, etc.). Will the present growth continue if a minumum weight is reinstituted? I think so. Something like 475#? That's 5# more than DMH (750ccMH) and 5# less than DSH. Still lets us large sized (or XL?) people compete without destroying those who spent a lot of money on the super-light boats.

My comments, for what they are worth.

Fred Hauenstein

[dwestby]

I disagree

So much for my people skills My though is racing you have winners & losers. Someone who has spent tons of time in set-up on his outfit to run compelitive at the set rules and weight or none be penalized by adding more weight so Joe Blow can be competive with the leader by spend no effort or time to do so, buy putting the racer back to square 1 by adding weight to his effort is just wrong.
Like I have said before I rather be the chaser that the one being chassed. I will run faster & faster chasing than setting back leading. My hat is off to all that have beaten me for you hard work. Some day I will catch up on my own I do not need a rule change to help me. You winner have spent the time and effort to go fast ,, Don't give me anything let me earn your respect. anyone can be beaten . Why penalize winners for those who do not put the time and effort in to the sport. I love competiton but most of all in enjoy the people in the sport. We make material liter and stronger and then add lead weight to equalize and penalize the driver and builder. I can balance a boat when it is building by adding wood here and there but adding a lot of weight to a new boat is just nuts and not safe. I am lost.
FRED I think if you put weight on DMR the new boat being build will not last a season Just my idea. the driver at the National this year were not lite weight drivers. We finish last and were one of the lightest there, love being beat make me work harder spud dennis westby

[B Walker]

Philosophy check:

Stock Outboard is (ideally) a driver vs driver competition. The rules try to take all other variables, like weight, out of the formula.

Modified Outboard is a Machinist vs Machinist competition. Everything else being equal, a good driver can still trump a good machinist. When you add a zero weight concept to a class you add the expense of exotic materials to the construction of the boat.

This does not help long term participation in the class or the sport. You get a short term gain in a class at the expense of a long term commitment to the sport.

BW