More Snow!

[jneises]

Is it possible to snow cats and dogs? High winds and 3-6" expected for Minneapolis tonight. Up to 20" in the central part of state is predicted. Just when we thought it was safe to put the snowmobiles away and start unpacking the winter stored racing equipment, we get snowed upon. Is is April 10th??

[pops67g]

This is nuthin!

I heared tell that back in the olden days it snowed on Mother's Day once. Just convince yourself that this is camoflage so that the global warming can sneak up on us.

[blueskyracer]

Where is that global warming. It snowed here in Montana this morning. The snow pack is at 125% here and they are hoping that we don't go directly from winter to summer. We have had snow in the morning for the last two weeks so spring is now cancelled.

[Merc1]

Needed to do something constructive

Jerry, today I decided to do some mods to your DSH. I used epoxy to attach the leftover half of my dads hydro to yours! Whoopie! It is now a Three seater! Next, I'm gonna put a tiller handle on your 44xs so the guy or girl in back can drive.

[jneises]

Joe, you are truly a craftsman, but better stick to piling boulders on top of one another.

[dholt]

global warming/climate change

Sucks that you all up north are getting snow this late in the year.

But realize...the global warming effect can produce more radical weather...not necessarily "warming" every place on the entire earth.

Anyone notice in the news the giant ice shelf that melted enough to shear from the Antarctic ice cap a couple weeks ago?

An unprecedented occurance...and one that does not speak well of our global environment.

I didn't notice anyone refuting global warming/climate change last summer when we had 55 days of 90 degrees or higher here in Ohio...and the south suffered (and is still suffering) one of it's worst droughts in history.

[dholt]

worth a read

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science...antarctic.ice/

[ricochet112]

Thursday the old season record of 623" was surpassed thanks to this powder making storm which so far has dumped 40" of fresh since Tuesday. This season's total is well over 640"

This quote is over a week old from Mt Hood Meadows Oregon. The current base depth is 203", 17 FEET!


La Nina is still holding strong, Pacific Ocean surface temps are running 2-7 degrees F below normal, it may not break until June some say.

It's amusing when it snows a lot somewhere and those that are trying to dispute the fact our planet is warming up, say "where's global warming?"

When you heat a pan of water it evaporates. With our planet being warmer there's more evaporation, which adds more moisture to the atmosphere, which in turn causes more weather. If it's cold enough it doesn't melt on the way down and falls as snow.

http://nsidc.org/news/

[Racerkyle20]

Crazy article Dana!

Seattle: 60 degrees today and sunny! racing season starts in 3 weeks here! Can't wait. Of course i expect our usual rain and cloudy weather through May/June as usual.

Kyle
20R

[14-H]

***An unprecedented occurance...and one that does not speak well of our global environment.

***.

"You think man can destroy the planet? What intoxicating vanity. Let me tell you about our planet. Earth is four-and-a-half-billion-years-old. There's been life on it for nearly that long, 3.8 billion years. Bacteria first; later the first multicellular life, then the first complex creatures in the sea, on the land. Then finally the great sweeping ages of animals, the amphibians, the dinosaurs, at last the mammals, each one enduring millions on millions of years, great dynasties of creatures rising, flourishing, dying away -- all this against a background of continuous and violent upheaval. Mountain ranges thrust up, eroded away, cometary impacts, volcano eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving, an endless, constant, violent change, colliding, buckling to make mountains over millions of years.

Earth has survived everything in its time. It will certainly survive us. If all the nuclear weapons in the world went off at once and all the plants, all the animals died and the earth was sizzling hot for a hundred thousand years, life would survive, somewhere: under the soil, frozen in Arctic ice. Sooner or later, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would spread again. The evolutionary process would begin again. It might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety. Of course, it would be very different from what it is now, but the earth would survive our folly, only we would not.

If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears the earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It's powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out. Do you think this is the first time that's happened? Think about oxygen. Necessary for life now, but oxygen is actually a metabolic poison, a corrosive glass, like fluorine. When oxygen was first produced as a waste product by certain plant cells some three billion years ago, it created a crisis for all other life on earth. Those plants were polluting the environment, exhaling a lethal gas. Earth eventually had an atmosphere incompatible with life. Nevertheless, life on earth took care of itself.

In the thinking of the human being a hundred years is a long time. A hundred years ago we didn't have cars, airplanes, computers or vaccines. It was a whole different world, but to the earth, a hundred years is nothing. A million years is nothing. This planet lives and breathes on a much vaster scale. We can't imagine its slow and powerful rhythms, and we haven't got the humility to try. We've been residents here for the blink of an eye. If we're gone tomorrow, the earth will not miss us."

--Michael Crichton; Jurassic Park, prologue.

[dholt]

14,

You're not actually quoting a fictional movie line to back a counter argument, are you? You wouldn't bring that into court I bet.

Sure the Earth has survived 4 1/2 billion years. That's not the issue. The issue is how long humans will be able to inhabit the planet.

"but the earth would survive our folly...only we would not."

Do your share that cavalier attitude toward the future?

As your quote proclaims, we've been here for the blink of an eye. Funny how the climate data has changed so radically in the past 150 years...coinciding with the blink of an eye the Industrial Revolution has been on the planet.

You can't be so drunk on the Indiana red state Kool-Aid as to deny science.

What kind of planet would you like your daughters and mine to live on?

By the way, congrats on your second child.

[ricochet112]

[QUOTE=14-H;103252]"You think man can destroy the planet?QUOTE]

Not the planet, possibly life on the planet as we know it, if we make no changes to our lifestyle at all. We can also listen to the warning signs and do something about it. No Chicken Little the world is coming to an end, just common sense.



http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_05/
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/globalwarming.html
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/4/14560/6189
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/ar4-wg1.htm

[niesenracing]

Why do people believe that the temperature of the earth now is where its supposed to be when millions of years ago its was 10 degrees hotter than it is now. Just because we are here does not mean that it has to stay this way. If the planet wants to change its gonna change whether we want it to or not.

[dholt]

So here we have thousands of scientists across the world with empirical data stating the problem and the results of said problems. And yet a great many disagree.


But that same group of doubters believes a former coke head Texan who proclaims (through no empirical data) that we gotta spend the foreseeable future fighting the bad guys in Iraq because if we don't....they're gonna come and get us and kill us all!