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  • Winter National's Special Event "C" Hydro Question...

    I was wondering if the NBRA (Mod. 25 Hydro) is also allowed to run this class. The MAIN difference that I have noticed at our races between the classes other than the use of the Merc 30 in "C" and not in M25, is that a Mod Yamato can only run "C" if it has an expansion chamber. In Mod. 25 you can use an open bell style pipe exhaust. Which is what I run on ours... can we race it in the Special Event "C" Hydro next weekend?? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by johnml390; 03-10-2009, 01:38 PM.
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    C= Mod Hydro

    I think some people may have the wrong idea. These classes are not a sanctioned NBRA events. No Sanction has been applied for from the NBRA, therefor no NBRA points will be awarded. These are special events that APBA has decided to run. So I would assume they will decide what runs in these classes. NBRA wants it to be clear, we in no way have anything official to do with this race. Good luck to the NBRA drivers.
    Art Kampen VP NBRA

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    • #3
      These events were proposed to confine to NBRA rules. A 25 mod is not a C Mod and the exhaust system is totally different.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by doc 35-0 View Post
        These events were proposed to confine to NBRA rules. A 25 mod is not a C Mod and the exhaust system is totally different.

        Answerd my question.. so i guess we wont even thrash to have it running for this race. Would have been nice to have added another boat to that field.

        What NBRA members are coming to this event anyways??
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        • #5
          John----I would talk to Ed Hearn and see what he thinks. The NBRA mod 25 and the C Mod run together very well. For a special event class, I can't see what problem would be created by running the mod 25 and C Mod together. As Art said there is no NBRA points so we are just out there having fun. I think APBA is just trying to get some NBRA guys to show up and race since it is in our backyard.

          Rick Miller
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          • #6
            Originally posted by DrRick34-0 View Post
            John----I would talk to Ed Hearn and see what he thinks. The NBRA mod 25 and the C Mod run together very well. For a special event class, I can't see what problem would be created by running the mod 25 and C Mod together. As Art said there is no NBRA points so we are just out there having fun. I think APBA is just trying to get some NBRA guys to show up and race since it is in our backyard.

            Rick Miller
            34-0

            Good point. Would be a good race atmosphere to get things ready for the NBRA season as well. Hmm, maybe Mr. Ed will have a read at this and get back to us as to if he sees it fit to let the Mod. 25 run C Mod. for this event.
            Mr. Rick, you going to be bringing the rest of the OK boys down here with you?? Will be good to see you guys again. Have to all meet up at Tunks one night for sure.
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            • #7
              I can't see a problem with it if all the C mod guys agree on it / take a vote at the drivers meeting.

              John do you have a legal C mod??

              Kevin
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              • #8
                John, I do believe APBA has a rule of No open Megaphones on Yamatos. Some tech guy might have the answer. I do believe what Kevin said might be an option.

                Tony Staron 33F

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                • #9
                  Special Event C Hydro

                  Let me be clear: In this class, we will allow the use of all Yamato Engines in a stock configuration. This means, the 80, 102, 202 (yes: 202) and 302. The engine must meet APBA specs for these engines and must run at the APBA height for APBA's C Stock Hydro class.

                  We will use the engine specifications found on pages 33-42 of the 2009 APBA PRO Outboard Technical Manual. It can be found at http://www.portagebaysystems.com/pro...2003-05-09.pdf

                  Mod entries will generally be combined with Mod classes if any combining takes place. Stock entries will be generally combined with Stock classes, again, if combining takes place.
                  14-H

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by PRAOF View Post
                    John, I do believe APBA has a rule of No open Megaphones on Yamatos. Some tech guy might have the answer. I do believe what Kevin said might be an option.

                    Tony Staron 33F
                    Open megaphones on Yamatos are not permitted in APBA Modified Outboard. If you have an open megaphone 102, you will need to put a chamber on it to run in C Mod at this event.
                    Last edited by 14-H; 03-11-2009, 10:56 AM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Art K View Post
                      **NBRA wants it to be clear, we in no way have anything official to do with this race. Good luck to the NBRA drivers.
                      Art Kampen VP NBRA
                      On behalf of the APBA, I would like to extend a warm invitation to all NBRA members. Your NBRA membership will be accepted at this event so that your entry fee will be the same as all APBA racers. Please see the circular for this event for details. Eddie.
                      14-H

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                      • #12
                        Ed---I think the conversation started by John Matthews was under the assumption that the "C" hydro on the race circular was for mod. Looks like by your comments the "C" is for stock. Just wanted to make that clarification as it does not matter to me which one it is. Hopefully the NBRA guys looking to come to the race understand which one it is.

                        Rick Miller
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kevin McAfee View Post
                          John do you have a legal C mod??
                          We are actually in the process of getting some stuff together for C Mod. this year in NBRA... but doubt it will be finished come time for this race. Or maybe it will... Lol. (Our NBRA classes just keep growing. We should be racing AR,AH,BR,B1H,CSH,CMH, and M25H forsure. And have projects at the moment that we may try out in DH and EH. So whatever races we make, we will be out there almost every heat!!! Haha.)



                          P.S. I really want to thank Mr. Ed for all the hardwork he has put into making this race work for everyone. Thanks.
                          Last edited by johnml390; 03-11-2009, 12:19 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Im sorry, but I misread the special events. C hydro is a stock class, daaaa. I posted on another spot, about the c mod, leaveing some confusiog. I just need some sleep..doc

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                            • #15
                              I should be there

                              Looking forward to this race! Not bringing any boats to race, but will help where I can and enjoy all the festivities!
                              Richard Russo
                              CSH 9-L

                              2009 NBRA CSH Southern
                              and Northern Short Course
                              Nationals Winner
                              2009 NBRA CSH High
                              Point Winner

                              Andiamo Joe!!

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