anyone raceing d-mod,form-e hydro

[94H]

nice time line Bob!!! Here's a SERIOUS question...........................how was the Tohatsu approved for use in FE without testing or lap data? Especially since the motor was not ran the year prior..............

Daren,
I'm not 100% sure of this but I think it was accepted into 850 (without lap sheets data) based on fact that the engine specfications of the Tohatsu are less than the current 850 OMC engine.
BK

[mercguy]

Daren,
I'm not 100% sure of this but I think it was accepted into 850 (without lap sheets data) based on fact that the engine specfications of the Tohatsu are less than the current 850 OMC engine.
BK

what do you mean by "specifications" being less?? displacement?

[94H]

what do you mean by "specifications" being less?? displacement?

Daren,
I know a loaded question when I see one and I’m pretty sure I know where you’re going with this.

Remember that Sid Bass originally proposed that the Tohatsu engine be allowed to run in the FE and D class. The Mod Commission wasn’t just sitting around one day and came up with the idea to add the Tohatsu block to the FE list. It was Sid’s wishes to add the lower displacement Tohatsu engine in FE (850).

The Commission did approve the Tohatsu to be run in the FE class and yes it was without lap sheet data. The same Commission decided that more information would be needed for Sid’s “D” proposal to assure that combining a newer “loop port technology “engine with the older 44 Mercury configuration was the best thing for the D Class. The data that was submitted by Howard Shaw was adequate however lap sheet data always tells the story. We want to know the elapse time of a “good” Tohatsu compared to a “good” 44 Mercury. This is why we have the prototype status.

Six years and three prototypes later we are still in the same spot with Tohatsu.

I mentioned earlier that I became involved with this post because of the jabs at the Mod Commission. I felt obligated to present relevant data so that other racers, who were not able to attend the Commission meetings, could understand the time line of events. This was also the turning point where I decided that a few of the Tohatsu people should come with us while we’re being thrown under the bus (Daren!). I sort of apologize for doing this – sort of.

I need get away from the keyboard and spend more time on a new chamber for the 500MH. I hope that this post becomes more positive so I won’t have to come back.

Bob Koschka

[Dave M]

Thanks Bob

I think you proved what went wrong and where it went wrong. At least now the real story is out there for the folks to see.

I have no personal interests in the class, but I do find it important to know about.

Thank you for keeping a level head, you did better than I could, I am dubbed the hot head. I guess that happens when logic collides with common sense.

See you at the first IOA race !

[PRO-MOTIONRACING]

OK, so now what can be done to fix this situation or will it need to wait for next years meeting?

[Steve Bork]

Cheyney,

It was great seeing the Street's and Korpe's at Capital Lake. IM looking forward racing against you this year in D-Mod. Always fun beating you when I have a good day.

Wow, lots of comments, let's get some D Mods and go racing Whidbey this year....

Steve 98R

[ram95]

Keep on truckin...

OK, so now what can be done to fix this situation or will it need to wait for next years meeting?

Nothing is going to change things for this year, but it gives all of us time to think about what to bring to the meeting next year.

As for the Tohatsu being dumped from 750 mod due to lack of "data"..? What data? You call the race results from 2009 "data" ? I sure wouldn't want to stake any decision on it.

I must say, the 750mod folks who voted to dump the "hat" have suffered unfairly. Their fears were that unwitting "morons" within their ranks might in the future allow the Tohatsu to be modified. And, they knew their fears were well-founded based on experience. So they effectively killed the beast. It doesn't mean they won't run their Mercs on the Bass towers or Bass' bullet-proof gearfoots. The good side of this is that good stock Tohatsu's won't be carved up to run in Dmod.

I'll still run my D stock with the D-mods just to see if I can wax them. It'll be fun. And, I'll run the sucker at 0 height too... or whatever height I freaking want to.... maybe I'll use a 5 blade prop just for grins. The crowd won't know the difference... Mine will just have a cowling that says Tohatsu.

And, by the way.. for you guys on the 'left-coast', when you refer to East you need to be alittle more specific. Not just referring to crossing some big rocky hill into Spokane. Cause if yer talkin EAST that means East of the Pennsylvania/Ohio border. And, if any of youse want to drag yer pelicans out EAST.. to race EASTERNERS you're most welcome. I'll buy yerr lunch.

Alex