anyone raceing d-mod,form-e hydro

[form-e one]

bill.... there all lie's the stories youve heard ,,,,heheheh,,,, i deff will be at moses lake and eatonvilee and lawerance,,, and of course at nats in orville,,,, soo if any moders want to plan on that speak up lets put something together,,,,,,, can mods be combined with pro at reg 10 races so as to let them race also,,,as we use todo in the old days,,,,,,,,,,, also how many d-stocks in region 10 pat and dave and bill and peters and??? as i will/can bring a d-stock also..... need to get my stocker going for the 1 1/4 mile comp records,,,,, give peter's some comp??? hehe hopefully

[form-e one]

haaaaa DAN,,,, you guys get your new boats built yet?????,,,me hopefully going testing this weekend at rock lake with my new kawi-rude,,,,, seems pritty good on the trailer so far,,,,,

[Trihedral_1]

you know how I love the rules. You guys could run your D-mod or D-stock in the pro class.... even a Tohatsu.

Jimi O. (305-R)

"7. Entries:
A. Races for each PRO class shall be run separately, but motors of a lower class may be used in a larger class unless otherwise provided by the
Race Committee. Equipment legal in MO and SO classes may enter in its equivalent PRO class; the driver must be registered in the PRO class
entered. For record attempts, National Championships and Divisional Championships, hulls must meet PRO dimensions for the PRO class
entered. At local races, MO and SO hulls, meeting the equivalent SO and MO hull specifications, entered in a PRO class, need not meet PRO
hull dimensions".

[jpro60]

"7. Entries:
A. Races for each PRO class shall be run separately, but motors of a lower class may be used in a larger class unless otherwise provided by the
Race Committee. Equipment legal in MO and SO classes may enter in its equivalent PRO class; the driver must be registered in the PRO class
entered. For record attempts, National Championships and Divisional Championships, hulls must meet PRO dimensions for the PRO class
entered. At local races, MO and SO hulls, meeting the equivalent SO and MO hull specifications, entered in a PRO class, need not meet PRO
hull dimensions".

So the way I read this you could hang your 750 or 850 mod on a capsule boat and run 1100cch, that'd be cool to see

[drew79c]

Way I See It

Considering membership has been in a recent decline I feel that the mod committee let the entire mod membership and its constituants down. More available motors, more racers, more races, more money. Not exactly science to me.

[pro350hydro]

So the way I read this you could hang your 750 or 850 mod on a capsule boat and run 1100cch, that'd be cool to see

Yes,absolutely! The Pro category doesn't care what BRAND the motor is as long as it meets the cc requirements.

[pro350hydro]

Not to keep this thread derailed but, The MORC not allowing a LEGAL D-stock motor into Mod is stupid. If the stock Tohatsu is such a threat to a Merc D-mod, why is it legal in the stock category as it races against a Stock Merc. If your d-mod gets beat by a stock Tohatsu, obviously you need to go back to the drawing board and/or do some more home work on your Merc Mod prgoram.

Plus a lot of guys who have ran mercs in the past have ran both Stock and Mod for years got tired of not being able to get NEW parts for the Mercs and have graduated to the Tohatsu. Many of these guys just switched power heads and run Stock and Mod. But when they have to have a Stock Tohatsu tower, and now a Mod Merc tower this makes changes more difficult, and cost more money.

Just my 2 cents, so Flame away at me

[dholt]

I have no dog in this fight...but it is interesting reading.

Wondering how much of this talk went on to your local commissioners before the Natl. meeting and how many of you appeared at the Commission meetings in Seattle to voice your opinions?

It may have swayed the vote.

And for the record, I believe the Tohatsu should be legal in D Mod in its stock configuration. As someone said...if it beats your "true" D Mod Merc, you got work to do.


Dana

[pro350hydro]

But how about building up your ranks in Region 10 with what you have ? That would help the sport a LOT more than worrying about 750CCMH. You guys out there boast on how many records and kilo records you have and hold. So it seems to me someone out there knows how to build a Merc 44 Mod engine..... I can think of a few that are more than capable.

Dave,

Many people are capable of building fast d-mods. I've heard many are simply tired of scrounging for used parts to build such motors when new options are available. I don't see the Tohatsu as a threat in the Mod category. Why should it be? It's a legal d-stock motor. Maybe they should change the name of the tohatsu to Yamato, or Sidewinder, then it would be legal in almost every class and category...

Who's bragging about records out here?

[sponsonhead]

I have no dog in this fight...but it is interesting reading.

Wondering how much of this talk went on to your local commissioners before the Natl. meeting and how many of you appeared at the Commission meetings in Seattle to voice your opinions?

It may have swayed the vote.

And for the record, I believe the Tohatsu should be legal in D Mod in its stock configuration. As someone said...if it beats your "true" D Mod Merc, you got work to do.


Dana

I was there. I saw it, Dana. It was the two guys on one side of the table (the R10 and 11 MO Commissioners) against the rest of the (Mod) world. They never had a fighting chance. Nobody was going to consider it, no matter what data was presented.

As I commented before: so much for removing barriers of entry for the Mod Category.

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[dholt]

Pat,

So what was the reasoning the Commission gave for booting the Tohatsu from D Mod?????

Or am I presuming too much that there was a bona fide reason?

[sponsonhead]

Pat,

So what was the reasoning the Commission gave for booting the Tohatsu from D Mod?????

Or am I presuming too much that there was a bona fide reason?

Perhaps some of the MORC members that frequent this site can explain.

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[Danny Pigott]

D Mod

I am not taking sides in this an don't care if the Tots. is in or not .I have raced D mod from 1972 when the MOD Div started in APBA and before that in NOA. I am a muti Nat's Champion in this class when it was EMH until some D### Mod Com. changed it. to D mod. I was a MOD Com. for years so i know how things work, Here is why i think the Com did not let the Tot's in D mod. This year it is running stock and all is well. But in the next couple years there will be more an more Tot's an more used power heads. And if it is still getting beat by the Merc the TOT's drivers will try to change the rules to let them run the same mods that the Merc does. Then what will happen to the Merc, Remember that the Tot's is a 43 ci. Looper an allready has a good ex. sys. and a lot better reed sys. If i remember right the 3 hole omc started off in FE as a stock motor an the 6 hole merc was comp. with it, look at it now. How about when the 30 Merc was the motor in C stock, they let the Yamato in an not long after that the Yamato drivers voted the Merc out of the class. This is just my 2 cents but i think i'am right.

[H20racer]

Danny, Well said case closed!!!!!

[sponsonhead]

Jackpot!

Perhaps some of the MORC members that frequent this site can explain.

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Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

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