Safety equipment "helmet" question

[RandY Aveline]

there used to be a snell rating requirement in days gone by!
i was needing a new helmet and went to A.P.B.A. com looking for any rules regarding the Snell rating, from what i can see the only rule in S.O MOD or PRO category was a helmet may be ruled unsafe upon inspection and no other statements regarding "Helmets standards" in the general safety rules!

My question is to any referee or safety official Is regarding the Snell ratings if in fact there is one, that effects the SO , MOD, or PRO categories is there a rules that i may have missed in the rule book regarding any Snell rating ??

the helmet i bought had no Snell rating however it did have a DOT rating and the a European rating ECE R 22.05 which the shop i got it at claimed that rating met or exceeded any Snell rating!!
Any input on this subject would be appreciated as i would hate to arrive and find my helmet was out side the rules..

thanks
Randy 23-H

[jeff55v]

Helmet requirements.

This subject seems to come up every couple months.
I looked up the rule at the APBA website while on my phone at a birthday party.
Acceptable ratings are: DOT, Snell, ANSI, and certain MIL specs.
It's in the Rulebook Randy. I think you're looking in the wrong place. :-)

[RandY Aveline]

ya you are probably right i was looking in this link http://www.apba-racing.com/Forms/2011/011SOMOPRO.pdf and there was no mention of any dot etc on helmets!

in mod they had stopped dictating certain safety equipment rules so as to keep APBA from becoming liable so to speak..

but in SO and Pro i am not sure !! I am member of all 3 holding a super license.

perhaps you could go and copy the link where you are referring to regarding the DOT SNELL ANSI etc so i can check it

thanks Jeff

[jeff55v]

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perhaps you could go and copy the link where you are referring to regarding the DOT SNELL ANSI etc so i can check it
thanks Jeff

I will do that as soon as I get on a regular computer.

[PRO-MOTIONRACING]

"the helmet i bought had no Snell rating however it did have a DOT rating and the a European rating ECE R 22.05 which the shop i got it at claimed that rating met or exceeded any Snell rating!!"

This is true. Many high-end helmets are not SNELL approved due to the high cost of testing and low sales volume while many low-end (price) lids are tested/approved as the SNELL sticker sells helmets.

Always wear a fiberglass rather than injection molded helmets when racing boats. 50-R

[jeff55v]

2011 apba general safety rules 02/25/11

Here's what the rule reads:

"Helmets must meet the specifications set forth by any of the following: Department of Transportation, American National Standards Institute, Inc.,
Snell, or military specification helmet designed for military aircraft — Mil-Spec helmets (CGF LA100, LH050, LH150, LH250; Gentex HGU84P)
and Peltor helmets (Rally Pro Helmet EN ECU 04 or 05) are acceptable."

The rule can be found here:
http://www.apba-racing.com/Forms/2011/011GRR-GSR.pdf

[Fast Jack]

Kiss

This is one of the rules that makes it easy for new entries to get into our sport. How about " DOT or greater certification reguired ".?

[RandY Aveline]

thanks for all the input it would seem to me with the DOT sticker on the back that i am legal with the new helmet !!

not sure how we got 2 post's on the same subject sorry Mr admin

any way thanks for the help i feel sure after reading the post and rules you all helped me with that the new helmet will be OK

thanks again
Randy

[jeff55v]

Helmet expiration limits

Speaking of helmets, is everyone aware of the following rule to take effect 11-01-2011?

Proposal #5: Helmet expiration limits

Proposal: And new APBA General Racing Rule 3.A.3 and Inboard Rule 3.5.6 to read:
Helmets may be used for a maximum of 15 years (from the date of manufacture), or until deemed no longer safe.
* If using the Snell certification label (without a manufacturing date label / stamp), helmets maybe used from the current cert. label, as well as the two previous labels. Snell labels are issued every 5 years, therefore once the 2010 label was issued, 2000 / 2005 / 2010 labels were acceptable. In 2015, the 2000 labeled helmets will have expired.
Note: Helmets should be returned to the manufacturer or retired any time an accident results in a significant blow to the helmet.

Explanation: Helmets do not have an infinite life. UV, water, sweat and accident / handling damage all effect the ability of the helmet to do what it was designed to do. Again, we have placed the responsibility on the Inspectors to determine what is acceptable. After 15 years, helmets need to be retired.

Effective Point: Effective 11-1-2011.

Motion made to recommend the safety rule reads a helmet can be not older than 10 yrs old. Motion Passes

[ram95]

Goosed again,,

Did we really need to have a "Rule" for this? Was there a problem? Goosed again!

Next meeting some dub will probably introduce a proposal to put an age limit on drivers! Maybe I'll submit something. Try this:

All drivers under the age of 55 must diligently read and obey the regulations, AND must not have long hair (women excluded).
Drivers 55 and up to (but not including 67) may disregard minimum weight rules.
Drivers 67 or older can run any prop, any weight, any DOT approved helmet, and any fuel., and can run any height they want.

Alex
Drivers 70 or older can use duct tape