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  • #16
    Originally posted by L. Allen View Post
    Dave,
    How long have you been in Squantum? We grew up there. Do you know my brother Bill?
    Laurie Allen
    Squantum sounds like something you find at the bottom of the pond. No wonder you guys always said you were fron "Quincy". Quincy sounds more dignified or presidential or maybe even like a really fast Mercury.
    Last edited by PopPop; 01-22-2008, 07:27 AM.
    !"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."



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    • #17
      new guy

      Originally posted by bostonhydro View Post
      Billy Allen lives up the street from me! sweet, I'll try not to be a pain in the ass Billy
      Boston Hydro,
      Billy has to be very close to you. Squantum isn't that big! His word is true. Listen and you shall learn. Welcome to the exciting world of the real men! Think about coming to our next meeting in February with Billy.
      Bill Giles
      racer giles

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      • #18
        wow, great support from everyone, thanks. the more I work on that clarkcraft boat the more i realize it is pretty crappy. admin is right, i need a used boat, or maybe buy a JDS kit for CSH or D. is D stock a bad class to start out in? what motors do they run in D stock?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by bostonhydro View Post
          wow, great support from everyone, thanks. the more I work on that clarkcraft boat the more i realize it is pretty crappy. admin is right, i need a used boat, or maybe buy a JDS kit for CSH or D. is D stock a bad class to start out in? what motors do they run in D stock?
          Both the C & D classes are great classes one just being a little bit faster then then the other. If you decide to run CSH you can buy a new to the US 302 not really new since they are run in Asia first but they are just like new in the crate etc. when they reach the US.

          If you decide to run D you can buy a brand spaking new Bass motor and also have a ball! both are very fun and fast classes

          Just make sure you stay in touch with Billy Allen and take his advice for bible.

          **Footnote Even though DSH is the faster class CSH is not for the faint of heart, I could be wrong but I think it might be the largest class in APBA.
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          • #20
            CSH had 130 participants in 2007. By far the largest. Very competative!

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            • #21
              csh sounds like a good starting point, I hear the yamato 302 is a pretty rugged engine, and not too pricey.

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              • #22
                Hal Kelly designed some nice relatively easy-to-build boats back in the 50's and 60's. Wetback was one of them, but totally out-dated today, even with major modifications. I would recommend to finish building it just to get the boatbuilding experience. Then sell it on e-Bay.

                I think the advice you're getting on C-Stock is pretty good, especially considering the part of the country you live in. However, if you were my next-door-neighbor, I'd do my best to convince you to get a Pro 250 runabout.
                Last edited by T Chance; 01-22-2008, 05:05 PM. Reason: added something



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                • #23
                  I'm definitely going to finish it and run it around for fun until it sells. what is better about pro 250 runabout, what engine do you run in that class?

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                  • #24
                    DSH is not for rookies

                    This may sound a bit harsh, but there is a lot to learn about driving a hydro before anyone is ready to run D. I have seen some really good 2-cylinder drivers that made the switch to D and never, ever got comfortable with the speed of the class. An average D is probably 15mph faster than an average C. The D boat is only one foot, or less, longer than the C boat and can be a handful. Anytime we take on something new it's probably better to learn how to walk before we run.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by pops67g View Post
                      This may sound a bit harsh, but there is a lot to learn about driving a hydro before anyone is ready to run D. I have seen some really good 2-cylinder drivers that made the switch to D and never, ever got comfortable with the speed of the class. An average D is probably 15mph faster than an average C. The D boat is only one foot, or less, longer than the C boat and can be a handful. Anytime we take on something new it's probably better to learn how to walk before we run.
                      I know you are right, I will probaboly run CSH not because of the speed diference but the money difference. you see, I love speed, I ride a very fast motorcycle, have gone over 100 in five foot seas(cigarrette boat) although I'm sure that doesn't compare to the sense of speed you would get in a much smaller craft, also have worked on and driven some pretty fast race cars, I live for the rush that only comes from speed and G's. I'm not some reckless fool either, I respect my limits and try to make good decisions so that I may live to the ripe old age of whatever. thanks for the advice

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                      • #26
                        I know how ya feel .. My Dad introduced me to speed many years ago. As a mechanic he had his hands on some hot cars. I went on to motorcycling and now kneelers. We saw 100+ fairly regular, as a youngster- probly explains it best.
                        Team Tower

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bostonhydro View Post
                          I'm definitely going to finish it and run it around for fun until it sells. what is better about pro 250 runabout, what engine do you run in that class?
                          There is nothing better about Pro 250 Runabout. It just happens to be the class that I run. I have driven Tunnels, Hydros and Runabouts and I like Runabouts best, I can't really tell you why. I like an alcohol burning motor better than a gasoline burner, again I really can't tell you why.

                          Why do some people like NASCAR and others like Indy cars. They both take skill and they both go fast. I don't know why.

                          What engines are there in Pro? These are available new: Konny, Arens, Rossi, and VRP. All come from Europe. I personally own two Mike Schmidt 250 cc Kawasaki hybrids.

                          And again, if you were my next-door-neighbor, you'd have me trying to get you into a 250 Pro Runabout. But you're not and the group around you will set you up with what you need - a C Stock (I'd take a runabout over a hydro any day). Go Pats 19-0.
                          Last edited by T Chance; 01-22-2008, 08:14 PM. Reason: grammar



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                          • #28
                            Hi Bostonhydro,
                            Why don't you give me a call sometime at night. Tel- 508-823-5653. We can talk about your future and I'll be glad to answer your questions, which you have many good ones. Have you given Billy Allen a call? I'll second that suggestion you do NOT start in DSH. It has never been a good beginners class! C Stock or 20 SS hydro would be a good place to start. In fact, I think Billy has a 20 engine for sale.
                            Bill Giles
                            racer giles

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                            • #29
                              Bill Giles will steer you right

                              Bill has seen it all and his knowledge is gold. I heard you say cost was an issue. You will most likely be able to purchase a decent Yamato, a competitive boat, a prop or two, and make a down payment on some kevlar for the price of a D motor alone. On top of it all you will be able to race almost anywhere there is a race just about any weekend all summer. Listen to Bill and go have fun.

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                              • #30
                                thank you

                                So, I met up with Billy Allen and its all clear to me now. Thanks for all the info, the outboard racing community is great, can't wait to give this a try. anyone know where I can get a nice yamato 302?

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