Any 45 engines out their?

[KG4]

Might be in the market for one in the near future.Thanks

[Ron Hill]

Sure....

I have five complete 45 boats, trailers and engines. Several spare everythings.

I will be selling Broc's current boat complete, by mid year, if there isn't a boat left, we'll use the capsule for a new boat. But will sell and engine or two for sure...

I have several mid sections. New gearcases can be made from parts for around $1,500 and powerheads can cost whatever.

Joey Harper gets $300 to sleeve and bore a 45 block to spec. Not sure of other prices...But do know that you need "RACING RODS" at $330 a set or near that, to build a powerhead...

Carbs are a pain, but several different one work...seems anyway, ok...

Ron Hill at RONHILL@HILLMARINE.COM if you need any 45 stuff...

[KG4]

Thanks Ron,I will be getting ahold of you soon.Thanks again

[deanwilson]

Do you need a complete motor? If not I have a complete Booth powerhead.

Dean
deanwilson17@sbcglobal.net

[race4kaos]

Ron,

Are you saying racing rods are getting hard to come by?
It seems many are in favor of allowing the fishing rods (with the additional oil hole in them) to be legalized. Would you agree? The people not in favor of it are the ones getting $330 a set for racing rods. Maybe a little 'conflict of interest'. I couldn't get in on the agenda for LA. If you agree and are there, bring it up.
What other parts are you finding hard to come by? Tom Booth has many racing carbs.
45 is a great class. We need to keep it affordable and continue to put new people in boats. I started 3 people last year. I know you are doing the same...

[Ron Hill]

Mike Doesn't Call It

'conflict of interest' Mike Wienandt says the OPC Commission has always allowed new parts or different parts when original parts aren't available. Jake at Seaway Marine made a batch of Racing Rods, like the originals. And truthfully, they are priced pretty fair.


My problem, I feel If I want to run a FISHING ROD that might break, I should be allowed to run that rod.

Thansk for the info on Booth and carbs.

ADD: I hope you never thought that Owners and drivers ran APBA!!!

[race4kaos]

Interesting

Thanks for your reply. I'm trying to leave names out of this. I was more debating a philosophy.

AVAILABLE and AFFORDABLE are often 2 different things.
I think my opinion of 'affordable' may be more along the lines of 'economical'. Maybe that's different than others.

But in an effort to grow [read: rebound] OPC, I think entry level classes such as SST45 need to be AFFORDABLE. The more parts available, the more affordable it will be.

If the people trying to make $$ off of the sport keep premium pricing scarse parts, they won't have enough people racing to sell them to in order for it to be profitable any way.
I understand the dilema. Bottom line, are they in this with their heart or for their wallet?

I think [read: hope] the majority of the commission is about heart. I hope every OPC decision made in LA considers 'what would get and keep more people racing' first and foremost.

[Ron Hill]

I Have More Tahn 50 Sets of Rods...

I HAD TO PULL A MOTOR APART THIS WEEKEND TO GET A SET OF 45 legal RODS. I have more than 50 set of 45 rods with holes....

45 has been a good class and no one wants to hurt it, Seaway Marine, I'm sure, has spent more for parts than they have made. It know making and stocking parts isn't cheap or easy.

If there is no speed advantage, why not make it legal?

[race4kaos]

proof?

does anyone KNOW the fishings rods will break or have any speed advantage/disadvantage?
i'd heard what i would [as an engineer] call opinions. i've also heard rumor people out west may know. i'm not claiming to know one way or another...

same thing for 7 ring cranks in 120. do we know we need to continue to spend more $ for parts that are were named 'racing', or will other stock parts work and reduce cost to increase participation?

[Ron Hill]

No Speed Advantage..

Never heard of a fishing rod breaking...Many didn't know they weren't legal and ran them for years....I've talked to BIG TIME ENGINEERS from three different outboard companies, and none thought the rods would be weaker from this oil hole...

AND Sowhat if they did?? It is my motor and if a rod break I'm the one who will lose the rest of my motor and the race....

Just like the racing heads....same a fishing head just different numbers, mill the numbers off and they are the same....DUH!!! Ever wonder why some heads have been miled on the side that would have noeffect on speed??? (It has been milled to remove he numbers, the numbers are the only thing the makes the head legal or illegal....They measure the same!!!!

[race4kaos]

As I suspected...

Please bring this up in LA to our OPC Chairman & Commission in the meeting.

[Ron Hill]

Don't Think I'll Bother

Got bigger fish to fry....If I can figure out how to run for OPC Chair again, I might run, then again, I might not....

I don't think the rod deal will make or break the class and this isn't the sword I want to die on!
I'd rather see MOD VP as a local Class..

No nose cones
Propshaft 3" below the bottom
1580 pounds boat, motor and driver...
Reinforced sides or cockpit
Inboard Overlap rules

This is a class I'like for LOCAL RACING.

[KG4]

I actually wanted one for my runabout for FER.I remember Tim Kurz ran one on his hydro back around 93 and it ran quite well.What do you think or would i be wasting my time with a 45 engine in fER?Thanks

[T Chance]

I actually wanted one for my runabout for FER.I remember Tim Kurz ran one on his hydro back around 93 and it ran quite well.What do you think or would i be wasting my time with a 45 engine in fER?Thanks

I can tell you what everybody told me when I decided to go into FE, and that is that the 45 hasn't got a chance against the 3-cyl. I thought the lighter weight and lower center of gravity would be of an advantage, but at the races I attended everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE, said no. I'm building a 3-cyl.

[KG4]

Thanks for the heads up T Chance.