Okay guys APBA "SE" rules were made official today.
Pops and I may have found a solid boat down in AZ. I need some honest, candid feedback on this thing. Here's what I know, and I quote:
"78 Biesemeyer that was origionaly layed up to be a K-boat back in the day. It ran as a K for only a year or two until the owner decided to turn it into and SS boat. It ran for many years as an SS boat and was fairly successful. Over the years it had been upside-down a few times and like any serious race boat had some repair work. In speaking with the original owner on the phone his stories fit perfectly with all the repairs that we saw as we did our build. He then sold this boat to build another one (which incidently went on to be the world champ) and Bob Bode (who had driven the boat for him at a few races) took it and put a capsule in it to race in the K class. He ran it for a few years to try and work out some of the weight distribution issues that it had and ended up selling it to Gary Steele here in AZ. When the boat got here it sat as it was deamed “unsafe” due to the fact that the capsule install was so poor. (I can attest to the fact that it was). We then bought it from Gary with the intent of steeling all the hardware off of it and throwing the hull away (as part of the agreement was that we never run the boat as it was due to the safety issues). As we were pulling it apart we noticed Green Metal flake gelcoat and decided to investigate the boats history as we did not want to throw away a piece of history in case it was one of the old Coldfire boats that Julian raced. After we learned that it had a very successful life as a race boat and that the bottom was still solid we decided to use it as our test boat to see if we could make a small block boat work. We had got our hands on the original Biesemeyer molds and made a complete Carbon Fiber boat for ourselves, but in our first attempt at laying a deck we had a gelcoat issue and decided not to use that deck as it looked ugly. So here we had a Carbon deck laying in our side yard that we were planning on cutting up and throwing away, while we also had a bottom half of a good boat and that is when we decided to put the two together. In doing so we put down some heavy duty carbon in the floor of the boat to give it a little more strength as we wanted to give some strength to some of the repairs the had been done over the years. We also put in a carbon toe board so the boat is all covered in Carbon so it is as strong as can be. Before we built it we did our homework regarding where the placement of the hardware should be based on the old E boats and used that for a starting point. As it sat it was pretty dang close and we have only made minor changes to make it run well. With some minor changes to the rocker it will be perfect. As for the hardware, everything is rough right now as we were afraid we would have to make some serious changes. We did not want to pretty up the rigging just to have to cut and hack it up in case it did not work. Luckily we did not have to, but still have not taken the time to truly finish it as it has been too much fun and we have not wanted to take it apart. The hull itself weighs about 520 pounds (that is just a guess as my brother and I can pick it up and move it ourselves) and probably will be close to the weight minimum as it sits."
Now you know what I know. Here are some pics:
Pops and I may have found a solid boat down in AZ. I need some honest, candid feedback on this thing. Here's what I know, and I quote:
"78 Biesemeyer that was origionaly layed up to be a K-boat back in the day. It ran as a K for only a year or two until the owner decided to turn it into and SS boat. It ran for many years as an SS boat and was fairly successful. Over the years it had been upside-down a few times and like any serious race boat had some repair work. In speaking with the original owner on the phone his stories fit perfectly with all the repairs that we saw as we did our build. He then sold this boat to build another one (which incidently went on to be the world champ) and Bob Bode (who had driven the boat for him at a few races) took it and put a capsule in it to race in the K class. He ran it for a few years to try and work out some of the weight distribution issues that it had and ended up selling it to Gary Steele here in AZ. When the boat got here it sat as it was deamed “unsafe” due to the fact that the capsule install was so poor. (I can attest to the fact that it was). We then bought it from Gary with the intent of steeling all the hardware off of it and throwing the hull away (as part of the agreement was that we never run the boat as it was due to the safety issues). As we were pulling it apart we noticed Green Metal flake gelcoat and decided to investigate the boats history as we did not want to throw away a piece of history in case it was one of the old Coldfire boats that Julian raced. After we learned that it had a very successful life as a race boat and that the bottom was still solid we decided to use it as our test boat to see if we could make a small block boat work. We had got our hands on the original Biesemeyer molds and made a complete Carbon Fiber boat for ourselves, but in our first attempt at laying a deck we had a gelcoat issue and decided not to use that deck as it looked ugly. So here we had a Carbon deck laying in our side yard that we were planning on cutting up and throwing away, while we also had a bottom half of a good boat and that is when we decided to put the two together. In doing so we put down some heavy duty carbon in the floor of the boat to give it a little more strength as we wanted to give some strength to some of the repairs the had been done over the years. We also put in a carbon toe board so the boat is all covered in Carbon so it is as strong as can be. Before we built it we did our homework regarding where the placement of the hardware should be based on the old E boats and used that for a starting point. As it sat it was pretty dang close and we have only made minor changes to make it run well. With some minor changes to the rocker it will be perfect. As for the hardware, everything is rough right now as we were afraid we would have to make some serious changes. We did not want to pretty up the rigging just to have to cut and hack it up in case it did not work. Luckily we did not have to, but still have not taken the time to truly finish it as it has been too much fun and we have not wanted to take it apart. The hull itself weighs about 520 pounds (that is just a guess as my brother and I can pick it up and move it ourselves) and probably will be close to the weight minimum as it sits."
Now you know what I know. Here are some pics:
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