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  • Need input on possible find!

    Okay guys APBA "SE" rules were made official today.
    Pops and I may have found a solid boat down in AZ. I need some honest, candid feedback on this thing. Here's what I know, and I quote:

    "78 Biesemeyer that was origionaly layed up to be a K-boat back in the day. It ran as a K for only a year or two until the owner decided to turn it into and SS boat. It ran for many years as an SS boat and was fairly successful. Over the years it had been upside-down a few times and like any serious race boat had some repair work. In speaking with the original owner on the phone his stories fit perfectly with all the repairs that we saw as we did our build. He then sold this boat to build another one (which incidently went on to be the world champ) and Bob Bode (who had driven the boat for him at a few races) took it and put a capsule in it to race in the K class. He ran it for a few years to try and work out some of the weight distribution issues that it had and ended up selling it to Gary Steele here in AZ. When the boat got here it sat as it was deamed “unsafe” due to the fact that the capsule install was so poor. (I can attest to the fact that it was). We then bought it from Gary with the intent of steeling all the hardware off of it and throwing the hull away (as part of the agreement was that we never run the boat as it was due to the safety issues). As we were pulling it apart we noticed Green Metal flake gelcoat and decided to investigate the boats history as we did not want to throw away a piece of history in case it was one of the old Coldfire boats that Julian raced. After we learned that it had a very successful life as a race boat and that the bottom was still solid we decided to use it as our test boat to see if we could make a small block boat work. We had got our hands on the original Biesemeyer molds and made a complete Carbon Fiber boat for ourselves, but in our first attempt at laying a deck we had a gelcoat issue and decided not to use that deck as it looked ugly. So here we had a Carbon deck laying in our side yard that we were planning on cutting up and throwing away, while we also had a bottom half of a good boat and that is when we decided to put the two together. In doing so we put down some heavy duty carbon in the floor of the boat to give it a little more strength as we wanted to give some strength to some of the repairs the had been done over the years. We also put in a carbon toe board so the boat is all covered in Carbon so it is as strong as can be. Before we built it we did our homework regarding where the placement of the hardware should be based on the old E boats and used that for a starting point. As it sat it was pretty dang close and we have only made minor changes to make it run well. With some minor changes to the rocker it will be perfect. As for the hardware, everything is rough right now as we were afraid we would have to make some serious changes. We did not want to pretty up the rigging just to have to cut and hack it up in case it did not work. Luckily we did not have to, but still have not taken the time to truly finish it as it has been too much fun and we have not wanted to take it apart. The hull itself weighs about 520 pounds (that is just a guess as my brother and I can pick it up and move it ourselves) and probably will be close to the weight minimum as it sits."

    Now you know what I know. Here are some pics:
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    How "BIG" is it? My Howard is 17'3" and yes I do have to sort out some weight distribution, and it aint no Bezer, but for someone who wants to start out and has asperations of going faster later, I think this would be a good boat. My boat is also much heavier but weighed in at 1840 with driver and a half tank of gas. Whatever you get, I look forward to meeting you and lapping you.....I mean racing laps with you......cheers

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    • #3
      And then there are people that don't no what they don't no.
      Dave over and out!!

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      • #4
        Nice

        Should work very good for you, and those folks you got it from are GREAT! Tall too!

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        • #5
          Lucky Find

          Originally posted by lowsodium View Post
          How "BIG" is it? My Howard is 17'3" and yes I do have to sort out some weight distribution, and it aint no Bezer, but for someone who wants to start out and has asperations of going faster later, I think this would be a good boat. My boat is also much heavier but weighed in at 1840 with driver and a half tank of gas. Whatever you get, I look forward to meeting you and lapping you.....I mean racing laps with you......cheers
          HA!
          Yeah look forward to meeting you all as well. Pops and I are trying to scrape up the cash to buy this thing as it is out of our intended budget by quite a bit but it's the boat as far as Dad and I can tell. Not sure if we're going to be able to do it and still keep our wives!!! Not a problem anyone here has I'm sure.
          As far as lapping goes I look forward to the challenge!
          -Shawn & Mike

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          • #6
            The brothers RULE

            Originally posted by Jerkizoid View Post
            Should work very good for you, and those folks you got it from are GREAT! Tall too!
            Yeah Boyd gotta keep it quiet though so the boat doesn't get sniped from us before we can snag it up! Yeah the brothers are tall but so is pops so the boat will fit him great.
            Hmmmmm, I wonder if we can shoehorn the power leather seat and pedals from my GMC truck into it!

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            • #7
              Hear her say no, or is it, here her say know.

              Third grade language tells me there is "no" and there is "know" . Now to get to the bottom of your post do you mean no means no, as your first drive-in theater date said "No" not 'now' And then you replied , You KNOW that I love you. No is the opposite of yes and Know is the opposite of "in the Dark". Where are we at? I would like to hear not here about that first date to drivein so post some facts. Jimmy D.

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              • #8
                hey there

                Where you been Jimmy??? You've been pretty quiet here..... how's that rottweiler of yours? my min pin wants a rematch...ha ha

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                • #9
                  Inside , waiting for Santa.

                  CSR, been splitin wood and putting boats to sleep for the winter. Got a lot of Christman lights put up and the Stockings are hung by the fake fireplace waiting to be stuffed. You will have to grab Greg and come over. Jimmy D.

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