Nbra Sponcer

[raceright]

Hey members of the Stock Outboard Promotional Committee, Maybe you guys should get in contact with the guys at NBRA. Why does APBA Stock Outboard not have this kind of sponsorship? It seems like these guys really have their sh!t together as far as promotion goes. APBA SO is the largest Outboard racing category in the nation, shouldn't we be able to find these kind of sponsors as well?

To anyone at NBRA who is involved in getting these sponsors, I would be very interested in how you attracted them to sponsor your organization and events. Any helpful information you could send me would be great. Thank you.

Ryan
As in any campagin to aquire funds it takes alot of dedication to the cause.

It is plane to see that NBRA has some dedicated people knocking on doors
and calling friends with connections to accomplish what they are doing.

I have never been to a NBRA race for several reasons as I only race TOP HYDRO and do enough traveling from L.I. to Title Series races but I'll bet they are selling races to the crowd not the boat racer this is how you hold on to a sponsor by pleasing the spectator.

I can only guess that some of there classes and races are very exciting and crowd pleasers. In my estimation Stock outboard in the APBA is always trying to please its drivers first (and usually the chosen few) this is fine if you use your own money but to attract sponsors you have to please the crowd..

Pat Wright

[aojesus]

Vision

My conversation with Jeff last night was very interesting. It was really easy to see their vision for the future. It is often hard to find that fine line when trying to please the racer and the spectator and the sponsor. Jeff and his gang seem to have found the balancing point where the racer, spectator, and sponsor are all getting taken care of without leaving someone on the outside looking in.

I look forward to watching this program progress. Their vision and strategy are well planned out.

GOOD LUCK IN 2008 NBRA! Can't wait to read the race results!

[kws]

To raceright. IMHO well... not really. as they are more than willing to add any class that has enuff boats to make a class. So they are more than willing to cater to the racers, no matter what alphabet group they belong to. I feel that is one of the things they are doing right. plus If you tell a potential sponsor that you will bring say 200 or 300 people to the area. and you are in an urban area they are more inclined to say or think SO WHAT. we can get 3000 people to a thingamabob convention. yet if you tell the same thing to a potential sponsor in a rural area they are alot more inclined to see it as an oportunity. while you will have way fewer potential spectators you allso have way fewer activitys competing for those same spectators

[ryan_4z]

Ryan
As in any campaign to acquire funds it takes a lot of dedication to the cause.

It is plane to see that NBRA has some dedicated people knocking on doors
and calling friends with connections to accomplish what they are doing.

I agree, and I believe that we(SO) could learn a lot from this group in the areas of sponsorship and promotion.

I have never been to a NBRA race for several reasons as I only race TOP HYDRO and do enough traveling from L.I. to Title Series races but I'll bet they are selling races to the crowd not the boat racer this is how you hold on to a sponsor by pleasing the spectator.

Neither have I, but I would love to attend an NBRA race, especially if I had the opportunity to win some money. Unfortunately, most of their races are too far away for me to attend. I would like to at least be able to attend one of their national championship events next year, but that is not something I could plan this far in advance. You are right though, that to retain sponsors, you must sell the program to the spectators, not the racers. It must still be racer-friendly though, because the racers are the heart of the whole operation.

I can only guess that some of there classes and races are very exciting and crowd pleasers. In my estimation Stock outboard in the APBA is always trying to please its drivers first (and usually the chosen few) this is fine if you use your own money but to attract sponsors you have to please the crowd..

Pat Wright

I agree that APBA SO tries to please the drivers first, and that is not a bad thing, it is a member driven organization. I, however, strongly disagree with your "chosen few" comment. There are probably many people who would agree with you, but I also think there are quite a few conspiracy theorists in SO these days, so I tend to ignore those theories. There is a lot of paranoia going around for some reason, but I personally feel that it is all quite comical, honestly. The SORC is not sitting around, in a smoke filled room, coming up with ways to destroy Stock Ouboard, despite what Daren may think(just kidding dude!). Also, believe it or not, Eddie Hearn is not the Devil!!! The reason that we elect these guys, is because they have the experience to look a little further down the road than the rest of us. We elect them, maybe we should trust them a little more.

To get back on topic though, like I said before, I very much think that we(APBA SO) have much to learn from NBRA on the subjects of sponsorship and promotion. I think it would be incredible if we could get this kind of sponsorship for the Stock Nationals. Wouldn't it be great to have prize money for at least some of our biggest classes? I don't think anyone could argue that winning a National Championship in C, 20, or A, isn't just as prestigious as anything else in the country. So why shouldn't you win as much for these classes as you might in any other class that might offer prize money? The winner of the Lock Haven Dash for the Cash wins at least $1000 dollars, sometimes much more, every year. We should be trying to drum up that kind of prize money for our Nationals. The best thing is that sponsorship not only supports the racers, who dump a lot of money in to a sport that is very un-rewarding, but it also gives us some kind of legimacy to the public, which makes us more marketable.

[raceright]

I agree, and I believe that we(SO) could learn a lot from this group in the areas of sponsorship and promotion.


Neither have I, but I would love to attend an NBRA race, especially if I had the opportunity to win some money. Unfortunately, most of their races are too far away for me to attend. I would like to at least be able to attend one of their national championship events next year, but that is not something I could plan this far in advance. You are right though, that to retain sponsors, you must sell the program to the spectators, not the racers. It must still be racer-friendly though, because the racers are the heart of the whole operation.


I agree that APBA SO tries to please the drivers first, and that is not a bad thing, it is a member driven organization. I, however, strongly disagree with your "chosen few" comment. There are probably many people who would agree with you, but I also think there are quite a few conspiracy theorists in SO these days, so I tend to ignore those theories. There is a lot of paranoia going around for some reason, but I personally feel that it is all quite comical, honestly. The SORC is not sitting around, in a smoke filled room, coming up with ways to destroy Stock Ouboard, despite what Daren may think(just kidding dude!). Also, believe it or not, Eddie Hearn is not the Devil!!! The reason that we elect these guys, is because they have the experience to look a little further down the road than the rest of us. We elect them, maybe we should trust them a little more.

To get back on topic though, like I said before, I very much think that we(APBA SO) have much to learn from NBRA on the subjects of sponsorship and promotion. I think it would be incredible if we could get this kind of sponsorship for the Stock Nationals. Wouldn't it be great to have prize money for at least some of our biggest classes? I don't think anyone could argue that winning a National Championship in C, 20, or A, isn't just as prestigious as anything else in the country. So why shouldn't you win as much for these classes as you might in any other class that might offer prize money? The winner of the Lock Haven Dash for the Cash wins at least $1000 dollars, sometimes much more, every year. We should be trying to drum up that kind of prize money for our Nationals. The best thing is that sponsorship not only supports the racers, who dump a lot of money in to a sport that is very un-rewarding, but it also gives us some kind of legimacy to the public, which makes us more marketable.

Ryan

Thanks for the kind comments as to 3/4 of my post..
As for the last part we will never see eye to eye and I for one will never be able to type enough or express myself well enough over this computer to have many understand some of my thoughts Example :you see when you say biggest classes I think larger engines and boats and you think numbers
of drivers so the fundumental reasoning is opposite...Its ok as we donot race anything simular except that we race outboards. I wish all of outboard racing well and a bright future.

Pat Wright

[ryan_4z]

Ryan
I wish all of outboard racing well and a bright future.

Pat Wright

Pat, This I agree with most of all.

[Dave M]

One MAJOR Point Ryan

The winner of the Lock Haven Dash for the Cash wins at least $1000 dollars, sometimes much more, every year.

The Dash for Cash is racer sponsored from what I recall. There was a hat passed in drivers meeting and anyone wanting to donate some cash could do so, and that determined the amount of cash you won in the CSH Dash For Cash. It is very fortunate that the race is a well attended race and draws a small to medium crowd most of the time. Some years it has a ton of spectators.

It is a very different approach to sponsorship than what NBRA does. One major thing they do different is what Kip hit on. They go where they are wanted instead of where they have to beg to race.

An NBRA race may be closer to you than you think in the very near future...

[kws]

Dave LOL its Kevin...or Kev LOL Kips a dude from Wisco

[thetrailergod]

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[Larry Mac]

This is a very generous offer from Eagle Body. The good thing about how this great prize will awarded is that you don't need to be high point or run a dozen classes to win this. Just support NBRA with 3 races and 1 National either short course or the long course. Your name will be put in a hat and drawn out at the National meeting. You must be in attendance to win.
Larry McAfee