SO Future in Detail

[dholt]

Just to clear the air...the SO Steering Committee, of which I am a member, presented a much larger and detailed report on the future of Stock Outboard to the SORC in LA.

The SO Steering Committee Chairman, John Runne, made the presentation. If he wishes to share what we proposed here on HR, that is up to him.

What was presented on the thread here on HR is just the tip of the iceberg.


By the way, CSH drivers...sounds like some heavy lobbying to the APBA BOD might get that proposed height rule voted down. They can't ignore a landslide of "this is a bad idea" phone calls.


Dana

[14J]

20ssh w/ the Sidewinder 20

Any thoughts on the class weight with the new motor? It would be nice if this was a viable class for a guy who's not 175 lbs.

[ryan_4z]

The BSH class with the 20 Sidewinder is gonna be geared more towards the 200 lbs guys.

[csh2z]

Revisions

There are revisions to the original proposal. There were some unintended ommissions and changes that were made during discussions throughout the week. I will update as soon as possible. There are alot of notes to go through. I will also explain the thought process that seems to have ruffled a few feathers on this site. Please be patient. John 2-Z

[Tim Weber]

I think this is a fairly logical process. Personally, I'll lose my 25ssr Yamato ride but that's ok.

My only concerns are if Selewach can keep pace with demand for motors and parts. Also, is there any kind of contingency plan just in case the Side Winder does not meet expectations? I am not trying to be negative but we are investing a lot of the catagory in the success of this project. I HOPE it works just like planned!

Ryan, I do have a couple of questions. If I read this correctly, we will eventually have ASH & ASR, 15ssh & 15ssr , BSH & BSR all side winder powered.

As far as runabouts, have there been discussions about boats? I am guessing 15ssr to be a rollup class on 10' boats. What is the thought for BSR?

Good start guys!

Tim

[driser]

Bsh

Is the 20 Sidewinder available for sale?

D. Riser

[kws]

The BSH class with the 20 Sidewinder is gonna be geared more towards the 200 lbs guys.

OUCH! so us 150- are stuck with lets see A or A or?

[dholt]

No...those 150 pounders have 'A' classes and '15' classes.

Medium guys will have 'B' classes.

Medium to heavy has 'C' classes/'25ssH'

Heavy has 'D'.

[forshey99]

Bad idea in the making

I don't chime in on political issues often, and for good reason.

But Ryan's post stating that the "BSH with the new Sidewinder" will be geared towards the 200lb. guy got the best of me.

This will create a situation in which the sub-200lb guy has only two choices.
1. Race with 50lbs+ lead in his boat.
2. Race ASH only.

The harsh reality is that if you weigh 200lbs. plus, you have a place to race...CSH.

If new weights are neccessary to accomodate the Sidewinder, than so be it. That is the change needed for progress.

If a 200lb guy wants to increase seat time by racing BSH/20, then he should do so knowing that he is a bit too big for the class and at a slight disadvantage.
The same situation as if a 165lb. guy wants to race ASH against a 110lb. 12 year old.
That's just the breaks of stepping down a class.


Nate

[greybeard]

15ss-BSR

Question to whomever on the SORC...

Will the existing 20ci Hot Rod have a ongoing place in the "new" B classes with the new 20ci Sidewinders like the 15ci Hot Rod/15 Sidewinder in 15ss?

15SSR/BSR roll ups or side fins?
It is a one vs two boat question for me, not the start of a flame war on real runabouts, please...

[14J]

I don't chime in on political issues often, and for good reason.

But Ryan's post stating that the "BSH with the new Sidewinder" will be geared towards the 200lb. guy got the best of me.

This will create a situation in which the sub-200lb guy has only two choices.
1. Race with 50lbs+ lead in his boat.
2. Race ASH only.

The harsh reality is that if you weigh 200lbs. plus, you have a place to race...CSH.

If new weights are neccessary to accomodate the Sidewinder, than so be it. That is the change needed for progress.

If a 200lb guy wants to increase seat time by racing BSH/20, then he should do so knowing that he is a bit too big for the class and at a slight disadvantage.
The same situation as if a 165lb. guy wants to race ASH against a 110lb. 12 year old.
That's just the breaks of stepping down a class.


Nate

Nate

Unless I have this wrong the B class replaces the 20SS class. Why shouldn't the weight be close to the current weight of 400lbs? At this weight guys at both ends of the scale can particpate and be competitive. Don't forget there is a 15 class, so the light guys have A and 15.

Troy

[racerchic3z]

Troy,
You seem to eager here in Hydroracer... posting on everything, supporting the sport, etc... it would be nice if you could make it to your own club meeting.
Stacy

[forshey99]

400lbs is fine

I don't think the weights need decreased, but I also don't see an increase to accomodate the 200 pounder as the right move.

How about taking the difference in weight between the Y80 and the Sidewinder and adding/subtracting it to 400lbs.

My point is, base the change on the introduction of the new motor....not the best interest of the CSH drivers.

I am sure the majority of CSH drivers at/over 200lbs would be in favor of the changes Ryan mentioned. Why wouldn't they?
They could then run with their exisiting equipment in the 2 largest and most competitive classes in SO.

Sounds like a good deal to me and when I gain another 45lbs. I'll buy into it.

[14J]

Troy,
You seem to eager here in Hydroracer... posting on everything, supporting the sport, etc... it would be nice if you could make it to your own club meeting.
Stacy

I was at my club meeting this weekend. I've resurrected Eastern Marine Drivers Association (EMDA). Where looking for race sites and members now. Craig Bowman, you in?

Besides I was legally drunk when you held your meeting. You didn't want me to drive, did you?

[mike ross]

Just a quick heads up. The height rule was done under the 102-302 pairity section. The lower height slows down the 102. and the height rule was so all 302 racers now no they will not experence a pumping problem. We want a new racer not to have to worry about burn downs. The height rule has nothing to do with extreme kick under like the A rule was made for. Mike