Tohotsu-Hemp WIN!

[Russ Birch 45R]

Tohatsu cost

Just one thing to clear up !
Tohatsu motor $ 4,995.00
crating $ 200.00
Tax/ washington
shipping paid at pick point $ ??????
This is all we have to say, it doesn't cost a arm and leg like some people would you to believe.
I'am done with this matter lets move on to somthing important . Like the cost of GAS Russ Bircher 45-R

[daveracerdsh]

I understand gas in the NW region is now the most expensive in the country. Can anybody explain why that is when we have a refinery just up the street from us, and we get most of our oil from Alaska? Just a random thought. Racer Dave

[dt 01]

Tohatsu

Hey John i'm not sure if it was the Tohatsu or driver that outperformed the Merc's from watching that thing it looked like a hand full to drive with the motor that deep....but it was fast not sure how safe but that's for you guy's to figure out . i'm staying out of that class with all these commit's about the East coast guy's not running if we show up!!! just wait tell they see these 302 in the 20ssh class....and why is this a legal motor in 20 ? I think all records will be broke this year that are run in reg. 10...1 2/3 already has been

Dave68R

[daveracerdsh]

Tohatsu

I was right behind Mike Kelly when he won heat with Hemp and Tohatsu. There are very few drivers, either in Outboards, inboards, etc etc etc that could have handled ride that he was given. Looks to me like having the thing buried one inch under the bottom is not the way to go...does not seem to be safe that way. I think we should move it up 1/2 inch on the transom. Dont think it will be faster, will just track better down the straightaways.

[RuthieRae]

gas prices

I understand gas in the NW region is now the most expensive in the country. Can anybody explain why that is when we have a refinery just up the street from us, and we get most of our oil from Alaska? Just a random thought. Racer Dave

not sure i did the attachment right, but it sums up the gas prices...................

[David_L6]

I understand gas in the NW region is now the most expensive in the country. Can anybody explain why that is when we have a refinery just up the street from us, and we get most of our oil from Alaska? Just a random thought. Racer Dave

Gas prices don't make any sense. Gasoline is almost as high, if not just as high in Louisiana as anywhere and we have a sizeable portion of the nations refining capability here and a lot of the oil comes from just a few miles offshore (Gulf of Mexico). You'd think that without all the costs of long distance transportation added in that gasoline would be cheaper here but that's not always the case. Last fall when I went to Florida to pick up my FE/SE Arltralite hydro the gas prices got higher the further south I went. I was getting closer to the some of the largest refineries in the U.S. but gasoline prices were getting higher!

[daveracerdsh]

gas

Very interesting stuff. I wonder if the high prices are going to hurt racing across the country? I would assume that people that were on the fence as to attending a race will decide not to now...I cant imagine these prices are going to help. We are paying as high as 3.49 a gallon in Seattle..some stations are close to 4.00 for premium, yet on the Olympic Penninsula, a pain to get to from Seattle, I saw gas as low as 2.98...what on earth is going on? Who is getting the shaft here?

[DougMc]

The gas prices in Florida change depending on County and then City. Florida has what is call a local option gas tax, which means each County and then each City has the choice to add a tax on top of what the Federal Government and State Government charges. On average, combined gas taxes in Florida are 48.5 cents per gallon. They became higher the further south you drove because there are more counties and cities in South Florida which levy very high local option taxes.

As for gas prices nationwide skyrocketing, this has to do with third world nations such as China and India becoming modern nations. China is going through massive economic expansion and needs oil to fuel their needs. Over 1 Billion people in that nation. Shanghi, China is now the most modern city in the world and within a few short years China may be more economically powerful than the US. Once India gets ramped up like China, gas prices will probably go up even higher. There aren't enough refineries to keep up with worldwide demand, which means higher prices. Sorry to say, high gas prices may be here to stay.

[YankeeRacing]

Gas isn't so bad here in Iowa. Of course we grow our own!

Keep adding that corn! The more we sell the more we can go racing.
Connie

[Richard K.C. Mo.]

Thank a Nixon 'Publican !!!

The gas prices in Florida change depending on County and then City. Florida has what is call a local option gas tax, which means each County and then each City has the choice to add a tax on top of what the Federal Government and State Government charges. On average, combined gas taxes in Florida are 48.5 cents per gallon. They became higher the further south you drove because there are more counties and cities in South Florida which levy very high local option taxes.

As for gas prices nationwide skyrocketing, this has to do with third world nations such as China and India becoming modern nations. China is going through massive economic expansion and needs oil to fuel their needs. Over 1 Billion people in that nation. Shanghi, China is now the most modern city in the world and within a few short years China may be more economically powerful than the US. Once India gets ramped up like China, gas prices will probably go up even higher. There aren't enough refineries to keep up with worldwide demand, which means higher prices. Sorry to say, high gas prices may be here to stay.

Just a thought about who done what.
RichardKCMo

[Geezeracer]

I'd agree that Mike's ride was kinda twitchy. I was shooting off T-2 and the boat was sawing pretty good off the pin. I think if Todd had stayed aboard Saturday we might be talking about another Tohatsu second place. The motor's got great promise, but it's still being sorted out and Mike's skill helped show what its potential can be. I think, the motor's a keeper.

Here's a look at Mike on Sunday...It's airborne from jumping and hunting, not from blinding speed.

By the way Dave, I think the bulk of Alaska Crude goes to the Far east, mostly to Japan. We get very little of it, and the Folks in Anacortes, where the refineries are, pay the highest prices in the state...Go figure.

John

[reed28n]

Dsh

Guys, before you go changing all of the rules because one guys' ride looked twitchy, let it work itself out for a few races. For all you know the fin could be crooked or inboard canted.

Their probably would have been a thread like this when the 302 restricted the Alllen's ran that beat the 25 mercs. I know the intent of that was to follow the success in the 20ssh class which actually brought all the old 20's out of storage using the 102/302 restricted to add racers. But I haven't seen many new mercs lately.

And the restricted OMC in the AXS class....... the SORC probably had good intentions.

How may DSH drivers are registered in APBA 2005 and then 2006 that may tell us if this motor is the future, for that matter post 2004, 2003, 2002, 2001

I love to watch them run, but I run when they go to take them off the trailer.

[Jerry Davids]

I'm with you Scott. Remember when our Dads ran DSR with no boat carts. Lucky for us we were to little to help. Sure fun to watch.

Jerry

[hydroplay]

Without seeing J Michael run this rig, I wouldn't be surprised at all that it may have been a bit squirley. While the wonderfully insightful people on the SORC think they can simply move everyones gearcases around with impunity to achieve their intentions, there are real-world consequences from this. The gearcase depth and angle are very much a part of the dynamic surfaces of the rig and have a very real input on lift and stability as well as simply the drag as the SORC people surmise. You can't simply lower the gearcase to increase drag and have the other factors remain the same.

We've always looked at the gearcase in the faster classes as sort of a water ski. Get it at the right height and the boat works and rides great but lower it and it will lift the rear more and push down the front of the boat. Raise it up and the back of the boat will ride lower and the front higher. Its interesting to note that all these transom height rules were initiated by small class runabout guys where the gearcase doesn't affect the balance nearly so much and the speeds and hydrodynamic forces are much lower. We always strived to find the height that the boat liked and then work on props to run at that height. The clunky Yamato gearcases and water pick-up problems as well as height limits have pretty much eliminated that approach but the affect of gearcase height still remains.

J Michael's boat as well as Todd Cragin's are designed for the Merc stuff and probably need some subtle changes for the lower gearcase. At least the Bass gearcase is thinner so being lower is not as much as an impediment as if the Merc case was run that low.

[Steve Warnock]

Gearcase Hydro-ology!

Sam,

Well said my good man!!

Warbs