American Hot Rod Update

[Constructor12]

Anything new on the Hot Rod front since the last update in September?

Dave

[smirnoff]

Hmmm.....any update on your progress of the motor?

[Stover Hire]

american hot rod

When will this motor be available. I keep waiting but no recent updates.

[flagjumper]

It seem's to me that this motor is a waste of money. A lot of big plans for it yet only one motor actually exist (so I am told). Is this going to be a motor for actual racing???? IE..lots of motors available and parts etc...???? WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON!!!! All this hype for what? As most of you know...I am new to the Hot Rod. I love racing this motor. It has great speed and punch. News of this "new Hot Rod" really interested me, yet I find out it might be all a bunch of wasted money. I know everyones busy racing, but can anyone tell me if this motor really going to be THE new hot rod or what?

Mike

[HRTV]

It seem's to me that this motor is a waste of money. A lot of big plans for it yet only one motor actually exist (so I am told). Is this going to be a motor for actual racing???? IE..lots of motors available and parts etc...???? WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON!!!! All this hype for what? As most of you know...I am new to the Hot Rod. I love racing this motor. It has great speed and punch. News of this "new Hot Rod" really interested me, yet I find out it might be all a bunch of wasted money. I know everyones busy racing, but can anyone tell me if this motor really going to be THE new hot rod or what?

Mike

Not be rude but everyone is busy racing this weekend no time for this kind of crap contact Ron direct and ask him.

[csh12M]

I think it is a pretty valid question

Actually Dan, I think it is a very valid question. People want to know what to invest in? The outboard commisions would like to know what to invest in? How long does it take to hop on the internet and inform some people who are waiting to buy it? I can say pretty confidently that the Mod Nat's is not causing a delay in getting a update. I am not being negative, just pointing out a fact. I am one of the people waiting around to buy one. I have a racecraft BSR that I bought for Paul Trolian. I want to race it with the "new" Hot Rod. When is that going to be? It is sure looking like this season is now passed.

Curious to what is going on?

CSH12M

[HRTV]

Actually Dan, I think it is a very valid question. People want to know what to invest in? The outboard commissions would like to know what to invest in? How long does it take to hop on the internet and inform some people who are waiting to buy it? I can say pretty confidently that the Mod Nat's is not causing a delay in getting a update. I am not being negative, just pointing out a fact. I am one of the people waiting around to buy one. I have a racecraft BSR that I bought for Paul Trolian. I want to race it with the "new" Hot Rod. When is that going to be? It is sure looking like this season is now passed.

Curious to what is going on?

CSH12M

Hey Dean I understand your point sorry I should have stayed out of it

[Richard K.C. Mo.]

A while ago!!!

I remember reading some time back about sliced bread or the like, i thought the man's name that intro'ed me was named Dean, diff. i guess?

Anyways i read with int.
RichardKCMo

[csh2z]

Let me first say that, I do not speak for Racing Outboards and this is my understanding of the situation. The Sidewinder project is a little behind the schedule that was set last year. We were hoping to have some motors available by the end of June. Some of the things that have caused delays are going to pay off in the long run. Besides design and performance issues, lining up vendors (high quality and reliable vendors) is a grueling task. To develop a product that our sport is depending on for the long term is a huge responsibility. Racing Outboards takes that responsibility very seriously. In order to produce the quality product that we expect at a reasonable cost, both now and in the foreseeable future, takes time. Every part must be designed, engineered and thoroughly tested for consistant precision, performance and durability. Even the inspection process was taken into consideration in the design of these new motors. The end result will be a dependable and affordable "Stock Racing Motor" that meets OUR needs well into the future. We are all anxious, be patient, it will be worth the wait.
In answer to your immediate question, we're hoping to bring 4 or 5 - 15c.i. motors to the nationals and they should be available for purchase soon after. The 20c.i. is not far behind, all of the design work is about done and they expect to be testing before the end of the season.
Racing Outboards, the Bass/Tohatsu, the 44XS & the Yamato 302, are the future of Stock Outboard. Their success and our success are tied together as one. As long as we support them, they will support us.
Class Structure - BSR (20c.i. Sidewinder / 25XS)
The 25XS is not compatable on the race course with CSR. We don't want to lose any of these drivers so we gave them a place to race. 25 Runabout as we currently have, goes away. We don't believe that the 25 Merc has much growth potential because the motor has been out of production for years.
As far as 25XSH, we believe that through attrition, lack of parts etc., eventually that class will go away as well. In the meantime, we don't want to do anything to artificially stimulate growth in a class without a motor in production.
BSH (20c.i. Sidewinder / Yamato 80)
The Yamato 80 has been out of production for many years. Parts are becoming scarce and the speed range is compatable with what we expect the Sidewinder to be. As time goes on the class will evolve from the Yamato to the Sidewinder. Current Yamato owners may continue to run their 80's well into the future. New members should be encouraged to buy the Sidewinder. Note: The Sidewinder will probably become faster than the Yamato once the normal evolution of boat & prop work takes place.
The SORC wants to be able to promote all classes with motors available and in production. We want new people to have the opportunity to compete on a high level with new and available equiptment for the forseeable future. When somebody buys into Stock Outboard, it needs to be a good investment for themselves and their family.
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John Runne
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[csh2z]

Hello everyone - I have been trying to work up another update between the interruptions of my real job, but thought I should take a minute to respond to this most interesting thread with a brief update on Sidewinder progress. When I first bought the company, there were not enough parts remaining to assemble even one Hot Rod engine; worse yet many of the patterns, dies, machines, fixtures, etc used to make the parts were missing or worn out. Since everything was going to have to be recreated anyway, and it became evident that the rotary crank cost would be prohibitive, we set out designing a more affordable approach that would also be more reliable. That takes time, and we wanted to do it right - quickly bringing out a half-thought out engine that still needed more engineering to get it right would only frustrate early purchasers. There is a new expectation of reliability created by the yamato motors and we wanted to meet or exceed that expectation. So the engineering had to be right, it had to be stable because we wouldn't have a second chance.

Well, I'm happy to report that we are officially in full production. The new design is finished, which has allowed us to have new patterns made for casting the block and crankcase, saddle, clamp brackets, gearfoot, and so on. Ed is machining the first castings as we speak, and they look great - the foundry work is absolutely first class, which translates to a more durable part. New pistons are in, connecting rods are in, cranks are in production; everything is coming together now. Earlier I made a couple of predictions about when motors would be available. As the owner of my other business, I was used to making things happen when I said they would, but in the case of Racing Outboards, we are dependent on suppliers and other vendors who sometimes tell you what you want to hear, but deliver what and when they are ready, not when they committed; point being that Ed and I can't control every aspect. At any rate, we are in full production - parts are arriving daily, all kinds of machining is going on - looks like a production operation in Ed's shop instead of a machine shop. The big delay, though, had been our desire to get it right the first time out.

We will have production motors, not prototypes, at the Nationals in Washington - that will be a great time to introduce the motor to the west coast racers. I can tell you that the wait will be well worth it, and I thank you all for your enthusiam. Being in full production is a real milestone, meaning all the engineering is done, quality vendors identified, and sources identified for other parts. New launch carts are available, and we're working with a trailer manufacturer to produce lightweight, streamlined boat trailers to help alleviate the high gas costs of getting to races, we've been talking with boat manufacturers to create CNC routed boat kits that will be easy to assemble, and on and on. The website is coming along nicely and should be finished in 2 - 3 weeks. I see the enthusiasm leading to impatience, but we really are trying to do what the sport needs - new equipment of all kinds, all in one place - to help build the sport back up.

So, guys and gals, we're there, its just a matter of weeks now.

Thanks again,
Ron
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[csh2z]

These two posts were from a thread entitled "Feedback Please". Lots of good info in that thread. Hope this helps.

[flagjumper]

Thanks for the update! This is good news. Yes, I was a bit frustrated when I posted my remarks about this engine being a waste of money. I was reading all about this motor and the new class structure that Stock Outboard has planned etc. I was pretty excited that we were getting a new motor that will have strong backing (like we have with Yamato), I guess I "jumped the gun" so to speak. Thanks again for the update. Good luck to all at the Nationals!

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Mike

[26V]

!!!

Yes updates are good, Thanks for taking the time to do so . Please let me know when I can purchase a complete 15 . On that note Can anyone tell me what tach/temp combo with a large readout will work? Make and Model would be great. Or point me in the right direction and I will go from there.

Impatently waiting for the next step in the future of our sport.

[swheeler]

mixing old and new assemblies

Will it be possible to put a new powerhead on an older driveshaft housing? How about the new ignition on a 64 bearing crank?

[csh2z]

You will be able to put a new powerhead on the older housing, the ignition I don't know for sure but I believe you will.