Please, Mr. Sorc Commissioner......

[Jeff Brewster 59s]

Let us take the restrictor out of the 25xs hydros!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then...we could have acceleration like the rest of the classes and not have to go into the turn full speed, just to keep our rpm's up.

Then... our Aof counterparts can run with us and we with them without the restrictor plate difference.

Then...those of us that want to run both classes do not have to go thru a restrictor change between hydro and runabout.

If you think 25ssh is dead then you havent seen some of the best racing going on lately in Regions 2, 3 and 6. Those numbers are then usually doubled with Canadian participation where the class has really taken off.

After 34 straight years of racing and three years on the commission I thank you in advance for the hard work you are about to encounter in Florida as I fully understand the commitment. If you wish to not vote on this issue then at least let it go to ballot where all 25ssh drivers can have a vote.
Thank you

[billy94m]

jeff its on the agenda. The commision will be voting on it.

[rossman]

25ssh

I agree with Jeff. Let the drivers vote on the removal of the restrictor in 25ssh. Brian 5N

[csh2z]

There will be much discussion on this, as well as many other important issues. There is going to be many controversial decisions made. Many will be happy, some will be sad. All we can really hope for, is that we do what is in the best interest of the sport, for now and for the future. I could go on and say many things just as meaningless as these but why bother! We'll see, it's going to be interesting! John Runne 2-Z

[Steve Johnson]

power to the people !

I don't think Stock drivers get to have any say In class rules any more.
I don't recall when this happened. I know in MOD we get the option to vote on class issues. enlighten me if I'm wrong.
Steve

[ryan_4z]

Ooooh! And the best thing is that the 20 c.i. Hot Rod would have no future in this class.

[mike ross]

your right on the button Steve. If I am going too predict an outcome I think Jeff will get his wish. Jeff get a new jock strap and make sure you have a jet pack so you can rejet that Merc.

[csh12M]

Hot Rod

OK, ok I held my tongue for a bit, but Mikes post fired me up. I competed with the Hot Rod now for a season and a half and was able to finish second at the Natioanls this year! If you pull the restrictor you kill the viabiliity of the Hot Rod in the class. Racing Outboard LLC is pumping dollars into the Hot Rod to get the engine going again, and you are lobbying to kill it in a class. Yes, I know I am one guy now, but give it a bit more time....I know that my performance at the nationals fired a couple of guys up. They see that you really can compete with the Hot Rod. Tim Sidor is looking to get one, which BTW would be perfect for a 20 Hydro size boat. He can race two classes with one boat. Pulling the restrictor would have no upside to Stock Outboard Racing other than satasfiy the guys racing the class. Leaving it in has an upside for Racing Outboards LLC and maybe new people getting into racing.

As far as 25SSH thriving, we had 7 at the Nationals and I was the fourth boat about half the time that I raced it. I do agree it is doing well in Canada, their was a full field at Crystal Lake of which I won a heat with the Hot Rod.

It may be good for the short term for the Merc guys but it would have NO long term benifit for Stock Outboard.

[jsilvestri]

Dean,

How would the speeds of the new "B" Hot Rod compare to the speeds of the Yamato 80 in 20ssH? I'm curious if this motor would be compatable in the 20ssH class. If so, it could breathe even more life into the class, give racers an option of motors, which as you mentioned could be run on the same boat, and keep the class alive after the Yamato 80 engine becomes a collectors item. Also, could the additon of this motor into the 20 class make a seperate place for a Yamato 80 / "B" Hot Rod runabout class? Just curious.

[DougMc]

... which BTW would be perfect for a 20 Hydro size boat. He can race two classes with one boat...

I'm off topic and don't race 25, but this is good to know and it is helpful for potential Hot Rod buyers to know what size, length, etc. of boat would work best with the new motor.

[dholt]

Forward Thinking...YES!

What is best for the FUTURE of dead or dying classes? That is the big question the SORC should be addressing this week.

25ssH- 36 boats in 2006
25ssR- 72 boats in 2006. BUT it's really just CSR-restricted. You could start restricting the 121 20ssH's this year and call it whatever you want and you'll have 70-80 boats. Is that really what we consider a viable class?

BSH- 26 boats
BSR- 27 boats
DSR- 16 boats
DSH- 42 boats

These are the ones in need. What do these classes need to grow? Some classes have begun a long range plan. The Bass 'D'...the new Hot Rod 15ci for 'B'.

Still, no long term answers for the 25 classes.

Will pulling the restrictor in 25ssH bring the Merc 25xs back? Really? Those who run it say it'll help the ride...they speak the truth, no doubt. But long term...what's the advantage?

The disadvantage to pulling it is eliminating the 20ci Hot Rod from the competitive realm...forever.

I ask, 25 drivers...you want to keep going to the Nationals and running against just 11 or less other boats...or go to local races "hoping" to be on the
schedule?

We've heard for years the restrictor needed to come out of the 25ssR so they could compete? It was pulled...now where are all those drivers? Nowhere...non existant. Same participation from Merc 25's as before.

I run one of these dying classes. And changes are gonna be made that might negatively affect me. Fine. Better that and have the chance to actually race at every race against a full field of boats than hope someone shows up to race against...which is what is happening now.

Dana

[hagerl8m]

boat sizes

I'm off topic and don't race 25, but this is good to know and it is helpful for potential Hot Rod buyers to know what size, length, etc. of boat would work best with the new motor.

Yeah this is a little off the topic. But i asked around for you, the guys that use to run BU said they ran a bigger boat then the boat they ran in 15. At least this is true for the runabouts. They said the 20 cubic was too fast for the 15 boat. But i've seen people do it. My family was never much of hydro drivers, so for that you might have to ask someone else.

[22W]

Jeez Dana, I couldv'e sworn I bought a new boat and made an attempt at something different last year. Tell me something, what was hurt by pulling the restrictor in 25R? It sure as hell did nothing to keep the 53M boat behind the guys running black. And I know that it got at least one driver (me) back into 25R. You say a full field is better, well adding drivers is what you wanted, right?

[raceboat61-S]

I'll have 2 new Merc 25XS powered 25SSR's in region 6 this year. It takes a while for us builder/racers to respond to seemingly small rule changes. I vote to remove the restricter from the 25SSH so that i can save an hour a day in switching engine configuration between heats. By the way, Dana, I race in 4 of your 6 "dying classes". This subject is important to me, too. Mike Marshall Raceboat61-S

[Steve Johnson]

Boat count now

I agree with Ryan, Grab the short term gain now. adjust when and if the hotrod is out and if warrented. The drivers have spoken. the possible damage to the hotrod is mute at this point. I think my 20 cube would have been quite competitve.
Steve