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  • Hot Rod Update from Racing Outboards / Ron Selewach

    Racing Outboards L.L.C.
    November 2005

    Update: American Hot Rod Racing Engine --
    There have been a lot of questions about the Hot Rod engines in the recent past. We would like to answer some of those questions and bring you up to date on our goals and progress.
    The easiest path for Racing Outboards would have been to build the engine that was built in the past, the original Hot Rod, and initially a beefed up version of the Hot Rod was our intention.
    As the project progressed it became apparent that this would not fill the needs of the stock and mod categories in the future. We redefined our goals from reproducing the Hot Rod, to producing an engine that would meet those needs as defined through discussions with racers and officials from around the country.
    We are designing and building an engine that will start in the water, idle, be easy to assemble and service, be durable, easy to inspect for rules compliance, and provide consistent performance out of the box - an engine that will hold up to the rigors of competition in the stock and mod categories, and be competitive with the engines currently in use.
    This “new” Hot Rod will utilize the same cylinder head, sleeves, piston, bore and stroke as the existing engines, but will utilize a beefed up crankcase, crankshaft and block. Engine specs will be virtually the same with performance competitive with the existing models. Noteworthy advances to date include:
    · The mold for the Hot Rod cylinder block was lost when the foundry that was in possession of it went bankrupt. A new prototype block has been built and will be tested soon. This block has been strengthened in several critical areas and designed to be sand cast. The block also utilizes an intake port cover and a redesigned exhaust cover that will support mounts for the ignition system.
    · A press-together crankshaft has been engineered and is ready to be prototyped. The crank will use a one-piece connecting rod, and a bearing arrangement that requires no tedious set up and shimming.
    · A new two-piece crankcase is on the drawing board, simplifying assembly and service.
    · New beefed up connecting rods made from new forgings are ready for heat treat.
    · The new ignition system (CD2) using most of the same parts that were on the early Hot Rod and on the current “A” will be available soon.
    · A new steel flywheel, smaller in diameter than the early Phelon and weighing about 4 lbs., has been spin tested to 17,000 RPM to assure that it will stay together under racing conditions and is on order.
    · A user-friendly Tillotson carburetor with adjustable needle valves is ready for testing.
    · We are also supporting the existing engines by providing new service parts.
    · The current rotary valve crankcase has been strengthened in several critical areas for greater durability. Castings are in process.
    · A new beefed up two-piece connecting rod made from new forgings is ready for heat treat and will be available soon.
    · Billet rotary valve crankshafts are in the works.
    · New A/J gearcases have been completed and are available for sale.

    The Hot Rod engine has come a long way; most of the blue prints we are working with date from the early to mid 50’s. Missing prints have been redone.
    The efforts of the prior owners of the Company must be appreciated; they kept the motor alive for over 50 years.
    Through Tom Moulder’s efforts in the 60’s and early 70’s the 15SS class was introduced and grew into one of the most competitive classes in the stock category.
    Dave Little picked up the ball in the late 70’s and with a lot of personal effort built over 200 engines for the 15 and B classes and enough parts to take us through most of the 90’s.
    Tom Moulder’s reacquisition of the Company in the 90’s insured that the engine would be supported and not relegated to history.
    Without the efforts of these men we would have nothing to work with as we head into the future.
    Racing Outboards intends to be here for a long time. We want to grow this sport and expose it to as many new participants as possible. We are already planning marketing campaigns that will help us achieve these goals.
    As you can imagine this will not take place overnight, we have a lot of work ahead of us, be patient, we’re coming back strong!

    Respectfully submitted,
    Ron Selewach
    "Its never too late for a good childhood"

  • #2
    Hot Rods Forever...

    Ron,

    Really great... keep up the excellent work. I'm looking forward to the future.

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    Dean F. Hobart



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    • #3
      Cmon

      Just one reply..... how about some encouragement or thanks to Ron!

      We heard for the last several years how badly we needed OMC A and J gearcases. After spending over $25,000.00 to buy the tooling patters and parts to build them Racing Outboards has sold 5.



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      • #4
        Thanks for the update Ron. As a Hot Rod owner I am extremely appreciative of you and all you have done to help boat racing and keeping Hot Rod alive. There's nothing more frustrating that not being able to get parts for a race motor. Especially when you have several of them and can't race because of lack of parts.
        The new concept sounds great, (mainly the press together crankshaft) we know it will be a good change even though everyone hates change, sometimes it's necessary to make things better. Keep up the good work and drop us a few scraps of info when you can.

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        • #5
          Ron,
          You are doing exactly what this sport needed. Manufacturing motors specifically for our use. When we see this sport grow in the future, I feel it will be largely from your contributions. Thank you for what you are doing for all of us. I for one look forward to having one of my boats powered by one of your motors. I wish you the best of success in this venture. As your business succeeds, so will boat racing.
          Ryan Runne
          9-H
          Wacusee Speedboats
          ryan.runne.4@gmail.com

          "Imagination is more important than knowledge"--Albert Einstein

          These days, I find it easier to look up to my youngers than my elders.

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          • #6
            Ron,

            Your hard work and dedication to the sport is very much appreciated. Many of us are anxious to see the new product. I appreciate you updating us on the latest info. It sounds like a ton of work is being put into this with the best intentions for the racers. I am glad to hear about some of the positive changes you are making and understand this will take time.

            Prospective buyers of these engines need to remain positive that this will be a great improvement over past engines.

            Thanks again Ron!

            Jerry Brewster
            Three Rivers Outboard
            www.trora.com

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            • #7
              Hot Rod Excitement

              I am very excited about this project to continue to produce the little motor that has such a fond place in my heart. The Hot Rod is a great ride. If you guys who race two cylinder classes have never taken a ride in a decent Hot Rod outfit, you need to take one. This engine is "the bomb," as they say, and way cooler than the gecko doing the robot.

              I can't wait to see the Hot Rod Factory's presentation at the Annual Meeting. The one last year was very impressive. 14-H.
              14-H

              "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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              • #8
                What does pressed together crank mean? Will a person be able to put on new rods/bearings without a press? Aside from that question it sounds great and I'm really looking forward to seeing one.
                Fralick Racing
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                • #9
                  Ron,

                  Thank you for purchasing Hot Rod and redeveloping the racing engines. It sounds like you are redesigning the engines to be very competitive and reliable. I can't wait to see the new engines on the race course. I might have to start racing Hot Rod's again but this time with the 20cu.in. motor.
                  Joe Silvestri
                  CSH/500MH

                  Dominic Silvestri
                  JH/JR

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                  • #10
                    Hay Dean!! Are the 5 lower units that were sold put on Mercury J or ASX engines. I see the adds in propeller still show you have to buy a lower unit. It seems like we should have a price on a complete motor for someone to buy. Or is APPBA still going to go into a lease agreement for these future Mercury engines. I know some people had a chance to look at the new gear cases at Grass Lake this year. The only comment I heard back after they had the chance to look at them was they seemed very tight when turning them over. Why do the old style ones seem looser than these new ones? I know the OMC motor I sold to Tates which had no work done to it other than shaping seemed way looser to turn over than the Units Tates had on there Mercurys. Maybe Ed Runne can give us a good reason. I know Tates sent there Units to Ron Thomas and they still seem like they turn over harder than an original Omc version. As far as your progress I applaud Ron,Ed, You and any other folks trying to make this motor a realaity for Stock & Modified outboard. With out new engines we would not see the growth in these catagories. Ed's right this ride is the ticket. I ran one for years and always had fun spoiling the old Merc corn poppers back when i was a threat. Mike
                    mike ross

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                    • #11
                      Outboard LLC gearcase

                      Hello Mike,

                      Yes, I think the majority of the 5 units were for the Mercs. I think we may have sold one more to a new Merc owner since this post. I am shipping a couple of lower units to Mark Wheeler who overseas the J category Merc. motor program, so that he has them on hand to ship complete Merc. motors.

                      APBA no longer has a gearcase lease program.

                      The new gearcase turns over harder because the water pump is brand new. Prior to installing the water pump they spin free. These gearcases were built with the exact same machines fixtures and tooling as the previous ones and the process was overseen by Dave little. These are the EXACT same as the originals. What you have to keep in mind is your gearcase has been run for 10-20 years. Your water pump is worn down and someone has probably profiled "blueprinted" you gearcase to the specs. I have been told that some people would take apart their original OMC gearcases and run the water pump in a drill on some sandpaper to wear is down a bit. I IN NO WAY ENDORSE THIS OR EVEN KNOW IF IT IS LEGAL. I just mention it to illustrate the point that the original gearcase acted the same way.

                      Thanks,
                      Dean Sutherland



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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CSH12M
                        **** I have been told that some people would take apart their original OMC gearcases and run the water pump in a drill on some sandpaper to wear is down a bit. I IN NO WAY ENDORSE THIS OR EVEN KNOW IF IT IS LEGAL. ****Thanks,
                        Dean Sutherland
                        It is illegal as hell and we will be looking for this at the Winternationals.
                        14-H

                        "That is NOT why people hate me." - 14-H.

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                        • #13
                          The durometer of the new impeller material is what creates drag. I will offer to disassemble gearcases & inspect the impellers
                          17W

                          "You gotta do the work"- Pop Trolian

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bbackus17w
                            The durometer of the new impeller material is what creates drag. I will offer to disassemble gearcases & inspect the impellers
                            Brent...What the hell are you saying. Does durometer mean hardness?

                            I really just wanted to say hell like Ed did.
                            "Ask anyone, I have no friends. I do have some people that put up with me and mostly because they like the rest of my family"

                            Don Allen

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                            • #15
                              You gotta be kiddin!

                              Hey Mike, I can't believe you were ever small enough to be competive in a Hot Rod. Vicki says you were even big in the baby pictures. Post us some pictures of you running a "B" Hot Rod cause I know it wasn't a "A" or a "J"

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