Question, I will be a new racer and will be purchasing a boat to run c stock hydro. My question is I was told that if I buy the boat, it can be used for c stock and 20ssh, ( i come in at 168) and that I would want to run both classes. (long weekend to just race one class) Do people swap motors, adjust motors on the same day to run twice? I have been to a few races and don't recall seeing anyone thrashing in the pits to swap motors and when i think about it, i don't think a noticed a pit with only one boat. Any advice/comments. Thanks all!!
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No Problem!
If you plan to buy a boat to run CSH, You can race 20ssh, and OSY 400
with the same boat and motor.
1st class: CSH 440# weight, approv. motors 102 & 302 yamato.
2nd class: 20ssh 420# weight approv. motors 80 yamato, 102 & 302 yamato
restricted. ( no motor swap if you run a restricted y102 or y302 just add a
restrictor plate)
3rd class: OSY 400 (UIM/PRO class) No weight limit, approv. motors y102 and
y302.
So you can race 3 classes with the same motor, and boat and be competitive.
Good Luck,
Dennis 21Z
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Yes different motors for 1 boat
People do indeed run more than 1 class with only 1 boat. Usually when you go to a race the race directors schedule classes that you would run a boat in 2 different classes far enough apart so that everyone has time to switch motors. So usually people dont have to thrash (but sometimes it is more than necessary to be running between the trailor and boat in order to be ready).
AndrewSMOKE ON WATER
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that is GREAT news. If i run the yamato and install the restricker plate, is it that simple, lets say 6 screws.. install plate and replace screws and race? Or is there other adjustments that would need to be made to the motor?
Last question, and please... no laughing!!
what is the diff between a 102 and 302, which one is better? and from what I read, equip is hard to come by. so what one is available?
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Yes, you will see guys from time to time switching motors on boats. However, most guys and gals have raced long enough that they buy two boats and two motors, that is why you will not see it much.
Currently, the 302 is available new and the 102 is not. However, you will see a 102 for sale from time to time here. The 102's are a little faster on the hydros for now, but the 302's are coming on. Its a matter of preference. The two biggest advantages of the 302 is that they are available new and it has an electronic ignition. So, once you set the timing of the motor you don't have to look again. The 102's have a point ignigion and have to be looked at on a regular basis.
What state are you from? Good luck and I hope to meet you sometime in the pits.Joe Silvestri
CSH/500MH
Dominic Silvestri
JH/JR
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Once you actually start racing you will find it more than satisfying to race just one class. There is always something to do and things that need to be done. Remember as a racer you are also a member of your local club and are part of what makes the races work.
Being on the water racing is only a part of why I am involved in outboard racing. There is much more to enjoy!Last edited by sam; 07-07-2005, 02:17 PM.
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once again well said Sam!!
btw my brother and i both race, we share a motor and swap it between ash & asr
it seemed kinda tuff the first couple of race weekends but we have gotten better at it. .
if it gets tight to make the next race,holler people seem to come out of the woodwork to help the next guy make the heat...... even if they race against them gee do you think that happens much in nascar??
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Thanks for all the feedback. It seems to be that there is two schools of thought. First, the 102 is faster than the 302 for c stock hydro, yet harder to find. And second, there are a lot of c-boats out there to buy, but the decision to build a csh via a kit or take a chance on a used boat, buyer beware. Am I missing anything?
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lol i am pretty new too .. i will half jokingly say that if you have only found 2 opinions on a subject dealing with racing, then you have only gotten 2 or 3 peoples opinions so far with that said.
go for it its a great time with wonderfull people
have you ever gone to a home improvment store or a large appliance store and seen someone struggling trying to load their large item and you notice of all the people in the parking lot you are the only one to go help them ? well the pits are full of the kind of people that go help instead of the other way around!!
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20ssH Restrictor plates
The changing of the restrictor plate is even easier than you think. Just loosen the two nuts that hold the carb on, and slide the plate in behind it, its a snap! However, you might need to run a different prop because of the reduction in horsepower.
CJ 111-Z
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Hey newbie!
Don't forget about boats with pointy noses. You will find two distinct factions in boat racing. Those who like only hydros and those who like runabouts only.
There is an old saying. I good runabout driver can drive anything.
Guess what I prefer? A CSR is an awsome ride and the dominant motor is the 302. You can restrict it and run 25ssr with the same boat. There are also some fast 102 powered CSR's so either will work. It might take you a little longer to get comfortable with the runabout but its a style of boat that gives you lots of feedback and it teaches you what it likes usually without bad consequences.
At 168 pounds you will have a big advantage in a Yamato powered 25ssr too.
I would suggest you go to a race a day early and try to get some rides in a hydro and a runabout. Ask lots of questions! You will find racers are very open and helpful.
TimTim Weber
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