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  • #31
    Originally posted by Ron Hill View Post
    I picked up 001 402 XS from Mercury Racing in August 1976. A Mercury had raced and won 36 in 1970 at Beloit, but he "Forgot" to go to inspection, which to this day was a BS deal, that manure cost a west coaster the title.

    I really don't think the 402 was ever legal in 36, as I'm pretty sure, that "SUCKER" would beat the Chrysler with ease!
    Wrong, Ron. I was there and this is what I wrote in 1970 in Hydroplane Quarterly about the race: "The 36 Class showed what could be a preview for the years to come. In the first heat Jim Kamorowski stuck his Merc 350 out ahead of all the Chrysler's; only to be disqualified for missing a bouy. In the second heat Kanorowski did it again, both ways, he won the race and was disqualified, for jumping the gun this time. This placed a Chrysler in the winners circle." And if my memory serves me right both DQ's were deliberate as he did not want to go to inspection.



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    • #32
      36 Runabout Motors

      Referring to TChance's post he mentions a Merc 350. The 350's were the smaller 2 cylinder 35 hp motors built from '63 to '69. The 400 came out in '70 and the 402 in '72. Back to my original question, were the earlier 350's legal before the 400 and 402? They weren't bad motors, just small ( 30 and 32.5 cu.in ).

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      • #33
        36 Runabout Motors

        Thinking about it, if there was demand for another 36 Runabout-type class there's already a great engine to consider. The 31.8 cu.in. 35 hp OMC motor is already used in Minnesota for the GT Pro series on small tunnels and Vee bottoms.
        There were many of them built for a number of years, they're relatively cheap, parts are available, and there is already a lot of equipment built for them to race ( props, etc.).
        I don't think there's anything wrong with a one motor class, and the performance can be managed with transom height, weight, length, etc.
        I've been out of racing for 31 years, and I would consider getting back in if something like this were available. I wouldn't get back in with $3000-4000 motors, flyweight boats, etc. Maybe it's time for a real STOCK class.

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        • #34
          Bill:

          I remember CSR's with a 30H running faster than 58 - hell I drove one for a guy. I also think they were quite a bit faster than the 36's.

          So I went to Speed and Spray- the heat times for the finals are one of my favourite parts. DSR - 3.25: CSR - 3.44|: BSR 3.52 : 36 - 3.67. Makes you wonder if Pontiue or Chuckles could have qualified in D.

          36 was dying when I was starting, but I remember Riggs Smith, Tucker Dolger and Puestow? (maybe) in Region 2.

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          • #35
            At Prineville, Oregon 1966

            While testing at Prineville my C Runabout lapped faster than my D. I didn't trophy in C, but won D. I raced my C as a D several times in SoCal, but the D's always beat me as when it gets rough, the power seems to have the advantage.
            Originally posted by rumleyfips View Post
            Bill:

            I've been thinking, I hope the 402 is a LEGAL 36 as I know where 2-3 of these motors are.

            I remember CSR's with a 30H running faster than 58 - hell I drove one for a guy. I also think they were quite a bit faster than the 36's.

            Were electric starter legal???? Seems, I'll run electric start, legal or not!

            So I went to Speed and Spray- the heat times for the finals are one of my favourite parts. DSR - 3.25: CSR - 3.44|: BSR 3.52 : 36 - 3.67. Makes you wonder if Pontiue or Chuckles could have qualified in D.

            36 was dying when I was starting, but I remember Riggs Smith, Tucker Dolger and Puestow? (maybe) in Region 2.

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            • #36
              Ron I recall that Prineville was about 3000 feet. Everyone was slow. I had the fastest CU there but the fuel pumps failed on the first heat as they were full off plastic shavings from the Fuel tank. I cleaned them out and on the second heat I nailed the start and blew over. That ended my day.
              bill b

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              • #37
                A Very Fast "BLOW OVER"

                Seems to be you built a C Runabout way ahead of its time. That type boat didn't need you on the transom, it needed you on the steering wheel.

                When I broke the C Runabout kilo record in '64...I was over the steering wheel the whole kilo.

                My C Runabout was super fast in '66, I just could not catch up with the leaders. I do remember your "SNAP" blow over at the start....Bill Giles won with what I'd call a 55 MPH Cary prop...but it was 55 all the way around the course......The same Cary I used at most local races, but for the Nationals I ran a fast prop...and couldn't trophy!

                Isn't this the 36 thread???

                ADD: 36 was never dying, it had its followers, but had stayed the same size for years. The Stock Outboard Commission decide they didn't have enough boats to be a National class....

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                • #38
                  Yes it is a 36 class thread. 36 was a lot of fun. Low coat to get into an outfit.
                  bill b

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