More As ??

[bh/]

I have never been involved in 'A' but enjoy the constant 'banter' in this Class,
reflecting the competiveness of the class. I am surprised to see no discussion yet on this motion from the AGM.

MOTION TO ACCEPT A DETUNED HOT ROD AS A PROTYPE FOR 2005 AND A PROBABTIONARY ENGINE FOR 2006 AND A LEGAL A MOTOR FOR THE 2007 YEAR. THE SORC WILL BE UPDATED WITH DATA YEARLY ON THE PROGRESS PASSED

[jsilvestri]

For durability purposes, why doesn't Hot Rod detune the 15cu.in. to slow it down to "A" speeds, which is what the motor was origionally inteded for, so I'm told. Then, detune the 20cu.in. motor so it runs the speeds of the current 15cu.in motor. By doing this, both motors would be much more dependable. Also, I still have my Hot Rod "J" motor, which was a great "J" mod engine and could be again if remanufactored. My two cents.

[raceboat61-S]

Why detune?

Joe, et al,
I have a better idea...... make 15ci Hot Rod be the "A" Stock engine, 20ci Hot Rod be the "B" engine, and leave the current rules the same for restricted OMC 15's and Merc 15's for our "J" Stock/ASX engines !
On a more serious note, though, how do they propose that the 15ci Hot Rod will be detuned to become a probationary "A" engine. Carb change, restrictor? Raceboat 61-S

[jsilvestri]

Restricting the Hot Rod's can be easily done by replacing the carbs with a smaller carb. This will not only slow the motors down, it will restrict the RPM's the motor turns, which equals more dependability. When the Hot Rod was origionally designed early 50's or so, it was designed to turn, I believe my old owners manual says, 5500 RPM. Now, you turn the motor 8000 - 8200RPM's to get the speed out of it, which means turning the moving parts of the motor way beyond what they were designed for. However, if the new Hot Rod company, along with their reengineering processes have redesigned all the moving parts to handle the extra RPM's, then this will not be an issue pertaining to dependability. Also, remember the Lectron carb has not been in production for some time so a new carb has to be found anyway. Stock outboard needs a 55mph class so replacing the OMC and Merc with the current Hot Rod 15cu.in. would not fill this gap. Again, this is only my opinion and I am happy and excited that Hot Rod's will be produced again and wish the company lots of success.

[Mark 72@E]

Explain Prototype vs. Probationary

Would someone explain what being a "prototype" means vs. what "probationary" means?

Am I able to buy a detuned Hot Rod for my son to race ASH in 2005 under >>any<< conditions or must I wait until 2006 for it to become probationary for it to be legal to race even at local (non-championship) events?

[Dr. Thunder]

Great question Mark ...

look forward to hearing the answer. Also, does anyone know whether or not the Hot Rod "A" and the OMC "A" towerhousings are the same length ... the gearcases should be the same but is the overall length the same?

[G Stillwill]

If the same tower that is on the hotrod is still used it is shorter then the OMC and not sure the hotrod will use the OMC gearcase or keep the same split gear case it uses now. All the internals are the same but different case castings.

[14-H]

Some responses...

The Hot Rod Factory also informed the J Committee (J is no longer part of Stock) that they anticipate introducing a J motor in the near future (couple of years).

The Lectron Company still makes carbs although they have not made a 30mm (the 15cu.in. carb) one for some time. They will make more but at a large cost. The Hot Rod Factory presentation seemed to indicate they had some leads on a cheaper carb that will work on the 15. They indicated that there may be a different carb placed on the A Class Hot Rod.

A prototype motor can only run if the drivers agree at the driver's meeting; no points, prizes, records or championships. A probationary motor can run at local events (even if someone objects) and win prizes but no national points, records or championships.

The Hot Rod tower is about an inch shorter than the OMC. You'll have to cut about an inch off of the transom if you want to run both and your boat was built for an OMC.

[G Stillwill]

Ed I know the carb they are looking at and is about the same size but will let Ron give the specks but will say its about 1/4 the price of the Lectron and the carb and parts are readyly avalible.

[Mark 72@E]

A prototype motor can only run if the drivers agree at the driver's meeting; no points, prizes, records or championships. A probationary motor can run at local events (even if someone objects) and win prizes but no national points, records or championships.

Thanks for the explanation. This is getting interesting. My follow up question: does it take a >>single<< "A" driver objecting or does it take a >>majority<< of "A" drivers objecting at the drivers meeting to prevent the prototype engine from running?

[Dr. Thunder]

As a practical matter I can't think of any reason any driver in any region would object to the running of a probationary engine ... no points ... no prizes ... nada ... especially if its the new "A" Hot Rod. But, perhaps I'm missing something ... personally speaking I can't wait to see it on the course. The "new" Hot Rod project should be viewed as the greatest thing to happen to stock outboard racing in fifty years. Can't wait to hear more. These guys deserve all the support and encouragement APBA and the SORC can give them.

[KG4]

Glad to hear a new A motor is in the works.I hope its more reliable than the B-Hot rod.I was looking for a omc A but it sounds like i should wait for the new Hot Rod.Anyone have an idea how much they will be and were to get one when they are available?Thanks Bob Van Dusen