Check out the cover of this book

[Silas_53A]

I was going to ask my calculus professor something when I saw this sitting on a table outside her office.

http://www-fp.pearsonhighered.com/as...0321533488.jpg

Anyone know who this is? when? Class?

[bill van steenwyk]

With some assumptions................

..if the numbering system is the same now as it was in that time frame, and competing in APBA, probably pre-WWII single step Hydros with boats from New York and Texas.

Photos do not show motor detail, but from what I can see most likely opposed motors of Johnson or Evinrude manfacture, at least that is what they visibly compare to from other photos of that time frame.

Does not the book give a cover photo credit? If so that would possibly help.

[36run69n]

DDon' know who.... BUT...

I have seen the picture in a book of yachting photos by Morris Rosenfeld. I remmebered it as its the only one depicting outboard racing, all others were Americas cup racing from the circa 1900 thru the 30's. The shot is from a bridge over the Schuylkill River in Philadelphia, PA.

[Graham]

Silas: They look like Jacoby Flyers with B motors around 1930 time-frame. Do a google search.

Sincerely,
Don Graham

[bill van steenwyk]

I thought I had seen this picture recently

Got my copy of "Vintage Outboard Motorboat Racing", the newly published book by Bernie Van Osdale, and looked thru it and found the photo. Bernie gives credit to Mystic Seaport, Rosenfeld Collection, #89930F, whatever that means.

The picture is shown as taken at the Eastern Divisionals at Philadelphia in 1933, so 36run69n wins the prize on this one! Would be interesting now to see who the boat numbers belonged to, but I did not see any boats with these numbers in Bernie's book except for these, and no drivers names are mentioned. The numbers in Silas pictures are somewhat blurred, but come out much better in Bernie's photo as, from left to right, N-1, N-711, and T-37.

Don't know whether Pete Voss looks at HR but possible he might be aware who the New York drivers are.

I really recommend Bernie's book. Mine was purchased from Amazon for XMAS by my lovely wife. It gives much information about Boat Racing from 1927 to 1959, and covers very briefly the start of importation of Konigs and Quincy Welding rise to outboard racing prominence. It is full of pictures of racing in that time frame.

[Syd Marsden]

The Rosenfield collection is a huge collection of pictures that Mr Rosenfield took of boats and boating events. At some point these were given to the museum.

[m12racing]

The picture is a Morris Rosenfeld photo from the Mystic Seaport Rosenfeld Collection. Mystic has the entire collection, inboards, outboards and Americas Cup. The number attached to the photo credit in my book is the negative ID number. All Rosenfeld photos in the book are available for purchase fron the Museum.
The old NOA numbering system is essentially the same as today's APBA system. In the 30's, odd numbers were assigned to the amateur division while the even numbers were assigned to the professional division. The picture show these boats to be amateurs. Number 1 was the region's high point champion. In 1933, N-1 is most likely Sammy Crooks or Joel Thorne, both winners of the Col.Green Round Hill Trophy. Some of the greatest drivers of the era were in the amateur divison.
Thanks Bill Van for your kind recommendation of the book.
Bernie Van Osdale

[PRO-MOTIONRACING]

Bernie, Thanks for writing the book. It was like learning about long lost relatives for the first time.

[krazy karl]

Mystic Seaport

I grew up in Mystic and used to run around in the Seaport when it was being built. They had a main gate but there were a lot of other ways to get in and no one cared if we were in there during the week, however not on weekends when they were open to the public. The director of the Seaport's wife was our den mother when I was in the Cub Scouts and meetings were her at their house on the grounds. The Seaport has been collecting everything marine since the 50's and probably has more concerning boat racing.

I remember watching a race on the Mystic River just north of the draw bridge probably in the mid 50's or there abouts when I was about 10 to 12. I don't remember much about the race but I do remember being excited about seeing the KG7's in action. I later acquired a KG7 that was built by Walt Case but I have never been able to find out anything about him. He probably raced some kind of wildcat circuit as the motor would not have been legal in APBA due to some of the modifications that were done.
kk