ASH champion?

[Jeff Brewster 59s]

This was and still is a 3 ring circus. To put Matt and Tony threw this again APBA/Stock outboard should be embarrassed.

Wayne,
I am disappointed in you for your statement. Over twenty of us were in Ft. Worth on our dime to fight for the Stock Outboard membership. If you were in Matt's shoes, you would want all the "three ring circus" we could offer.

All of us hate the fact this "three ring circus" happened and feel worse for Tony and Matt.
Jeff

[DeanFHobart]

Bad

This just shows how BAD APBA is.

[adamallen]

Dean- This absolutely has nothing to do with how bad APBA may be in your opinion. In my opinion it lets every member know that their voice can be heard. That statement means that the membership is bad, so by bad you me all of the members of the organization that were in attendance at the Annual Meeting. It's exactly like a shareholders meeting. If anyone who did not like how a democratic process played out I suggest you race in China.

Maybe some do not remember but this same process that was used when the "SEA-TAC" gang tried to make APBA their own maybe 10-12 years ago.

It's funny how people think of APBA as the bad person here in HR. Despite what y'all think APBA is not an "ivory tower" with columned entrances it's a membership organization of members who race boats. Few are paid and the ones that are haven't had a raise in 5 years, and they still work their tails off to make racing happen. Less the Executive Director all officers of this organization are elected or appointed by the Board of Directors who by by-law are required to have no salary. It's a labor of love.

AA

[DiGia54D]

Wayne,
I am disappointed in you for your statement. Over twenty of us were in Ft. Worth on our dime to fight for the Stock Outboard membership. If you were in Matt's shoes, you would want all the "three ring circus" we could offer.

All of us hate the fact this "three ring circus" happened and feel worse for Tony and Matt.
Jeff

Jeff, I know it was on all your dimes, but that wasnt my point. If I went out there i would have to miss a couple of races to make up the money. Its just how many times can this be changed? 2 times at the nationals then an appeal that was won, now changed again... I have known Matt since I was 17 and only met Tony when he came here a couple of years ago to race in Thompson. Both great guys and both more then support our sport. My problem is Matt has been named National champion 3 times and taken it away 2 times.
Im not trying to crap on anyone, I have liked everyone I have met in this sport. Yes now that I read what I said, I should have worded it different or not said anything.

[csh2z]

The full explanation will ease everybodies mind. Please be patient. Misunderstood information causes a lot of problems around here.

[Team 12R]

simple question

were the sponson tips legal on matt's/george's boat at final inspection? i agree with deano... shame on you all...

[blueskyracer]

I dont have a stake in this so looking at it from a neutral position I have to say if you did not pass final inspection you are done.. Rules are rules and if it was a fuel issue you would be toast so why is it not the same for safety.. The builder should know the rules also..


I hope that at this meeting that just finished that they spent more discussion on penalities for such an infraction

[csh2z]

The boat had a bona-fide 2012 safety inspection sticker in it which means it passed the safety inspection by an official inspector of the APBA. People make mistakes. The new safety inspection checklist will hopefully prevent this from happening in the future.

[Dave M]

The Biggest Loser

The real loser is the organization and all of its participants. Shame on everyone for having rules that are open to such interpretation.

Learn from this mistake and fix it quick. Move on.

[Lee Sutter]

ASH Champion?

IMO the penalty does not fit the crime. I think some rules should have a warning period before disqualification. Like in this case (which is a losing situation for everybody) it could have been prevented if the rules covered the none intentional violations that don't improve performance. In this case, simply don't let the boat race again until it is within compliance. And, maybe yellow card the boat and driver.
I hope the SORC does something to prevent this from happening again. I also hope the inspection team and Charle Strang have the patience and tolerance
and continue to support APBA.

[17W]

2004 Whitney Point JSR National Championship...

Don Allen's oldest daughter gets pitched in inspection for an issue with their boat which had been run all year with no issues; it too had a Safety Inspection sticker and had passed multiple inspections that year.

The disqualification was appealed at the event; needless to say she went home without the title. DONE DEAL END OF STORY!

I bet if Don had any idea they could have been reinstated; they he would have pushed the issue.

What a JOKE!

[adamallen]

The real loser is the organization and all of its participants. Shame on everyone for having rules that are open to such interpretation.

Learn from this mistake and fix it quick. Move on.

The real loser is the organization? Do you even know how an organization works? So what you're saying is the members which pay their hard earned money to be a part of the organization shouldn't have the final say. If so, That's the stupidest thing I've heard from you. By the way most of it is. Do you even know what happened?? Do you even know what the rule is? If you hate it when democracy rules you should check in your citizenship.


AA

[Jack Stotts]

Let me get this straight. The original safety sticker awarder wrongly put the sticker on the boat (mistake) then the system perpetuates his /her error by ignoring the violation. What a system! No wonder things are going downhill. Jack

[blueskyracer]

Let me get this straight. The original safety sticker awarder wrongly put the sticker on the boat (mistake) then the system perpetuates his /her error by ignoring the violation. What a system! No wonder things are going downhill. Jack

And on top of this I guess everyone got to vote on this that is in the outboard hydro division as stated by AA.. I really dont think everyone entitled to vote was at the meeting

[adamallen]

And on top of this I guess everyone got to vote on this that is in the outboard hydro division as stated by AA.. I really dont think everyone entitled to vote was at the meeting

The APBA Annual meeting is open to all members. It's required by Law