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  • #16
    Originally posted by smelt farmer View Post
    apba ,your days are numbered.
    farmer
    Changing the DSR weight makes the SORC agenda, the SORC responds to the agenda item by letting ONLY the members of the class decide on the issue and smelt farmer makes the above post? why? I don't get it.

    With all respect to Mark Kurz, I do not remember most of us on the SORC thinking it was a great idea, rather, we were not sure and wanted to let the DSR drivers have their say.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Team 222R View Post
      how many marathons do you guys have back there? are you seeing 8 boat entries at several different events? i know about "top-O' & the couple classes in trenton. are there races we don't hear about? i don't think decisions should be made on a couple regional events that have a decent turnout.

      i agree it takes a little more skill to race a roll-up. however that's the evolution of boat racing (like the KG to the 55 to the XS and hopefully to the tohatsu). just like evolution, those that can't adapt or change become extinct. throw in a governing body that allows self interest to make decision rather than betterment of the whole and DSH & DSR will be a special event at nationals along with the 20H.
      Just wondering is this a fact or just a opinion? And if this evolution and change just look at the numbers of stockers now and then .Adaptation does have its just rewards and with this forward looking you can never see what you left behind you.adde parvum parvo magnus acervus erit
      Last edited by D141MI; 03-13-2012, 08:19 PM. Reason: spelling

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      • #18
        just my opinion friend

        Originally posted by D141MI View Post
        Just wondering is this a fact or just a opinion? And if this evolution and change just look at the numbers of stockers now and then .Adaptation does have its just rewards and with this forward looking you can never see what you left behind you.adde parvum parvo magnus acervus erit
        evolution happens every day. i think we are in our current state of affairs because we and our sport failed to evolve in many ways. why however should we think that burring our heads in the sand and allowing the self serving few to deny change will be good for our future? DSH and DSR are not doing well. we have had a chance to evolve theses classes and DMOD buy making a change simply by flipping a switch. we are racing a 25 year old motor that parts are becoming very difficult to find at a realistic price. raising or lowering height or weight are not going to save D stock.

        my latin is a little rusty but i'm not sure how adding a little to a little will form a great heap relates any way to a bunch of stubborn old DMOD guys worried sick that a stock tohatsu might be faster.

        7 boats in a stock class at nationals last summer? how much worse do things need to get before we do the right thing?
        Bill Dingman "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

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        • #19
          There should never be a National Championship awarded if there is not a full field of boats in a final. It takes away what a National Champion is. After all 7 boats in a Nationals? I have seen it worse with 4 boats in a Nationals.....Just my opinion.

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          • #20
            weight/evolution

            Read with caution as I know diddly...

            Regarding minimum weight, is it not easier and significantly more cost effective for the minority wee sized D class racer to throw in some lead, than for the more customary fuller figured D racer to build a composite boat? Seems lowering the weight would further disadvantage the average and plus sized racers who already have minimal cost effective classes to run in comparison.

            Evolution...since the APBA seems to be in a generous mood by giving their blessings to yet another Yamato class for small fellas i.e. 302SSH, it may be good time for the Tohatsu crowd to propose their own classes?
            TSR Tohatsu Stock Runabout, TMR, TSH and TMH. Allow the Merc's to run with ya...Ultimately, it would seem good for the sport if folks would figure out a way to get more than two heats a day out of expensive D equipment regardless of the motor manufacturer.

            Just ideas..no dog in the fight for me, too busy running Yamato's!

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            • #21
              Bill. I'm sorry , I could have stated that more accurately. I noticed no objections , and as a greenhorn , I did not properly speak my thoughts on it. I was relieved knowing it would come to a vote. Such a large percentage of DSR drivers are from around here and area what I consider to be DSR 'size' that I know thet will not want to see the reduction. I regret stating it as I did in the earlier post.

              With all respect to Mark Kurz, I do not remember most of us on the SORC thinking it was a great idea, rather, we were not sure and wanted to let the DSR drivers have their say.[/QUOTE]

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              • #22
                It's my fault. I did not object to the motion in chicago. I voted to put it on the ballot thinking it was a no brainer knowing most of the DSR drivers…that it would get voted down. Just make sure you guys vote or you could be sorry.
                "Ask anyone, I have no friends. I do have some people that put up with me and mostly because they like the rest of my family"

                Don Allen

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                • #23
                  I knew that eventually, we would be able to blame all this on you.

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                  • #24
                    Whoa, don't drop the weight.

                    I am team owner/dad thinking of 'D' for myself in the future and will need all the room for weight the class can provide. Not that one person like myself has the fate of the class in their grasp but, why? I don't get how it will help the class at all: it seems counter intuitive to me.

                    Let me jump on the wagon for a minute with those that complain about all the movement in the rule books; again, why?

                    Is this all just chatter or a real initiative? If its real, are you sure you want to leave it up to just the current class drivers?
                    Raymond


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                    • #25
                      I don't see where dropping the weight is going to do the class any good especially as it aligns with my class CSR. We have had this same proposal to lower weight in our class several times and it has gone nowhere. Probably a good thing for C but if it had happened would have probably helped D as some of the heavier drivers in C would have moved to D. Personally I would like to have seen C's weight limit go down as I have to put 37 lbs in my marathon boat and almost 10 in my closed course Zcraft but if it had happened I think it might have driven some drivers out of the sport rather than invest in an expensive Tohatsu to race D, especially with all of the issues surrounding that motor. But that is a whole nother issue. Mercs aint cheap either.

                      If D is lowered then C should probably be lowered as well to keep the classes separated, at least that is the way I see it. So unless we do both, leave it alone.
                      kk



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