NEW TOPIC: Suspended Boat Racers

[Mike Beegle]

suspended boat racers

excesive gun jumping

[hagerl8m]

Not sure

I don't I think the sport is too lenient on racers. Punishment should be great so problems don't occur as often. I’ve seen a crash after the finish of the race. And the driver was only given a 2 or 3 week suspension. Sounds week. It was a malicious act and should have been given a larger penalty. Just my two cents.

Chris 8M

[Xracer]

Suspended racers! More gallows humor? Should some individuals be banned for life by APBA for crimes against common decency?

[888race]

I Can Only Say How I Feel

It Might Be In Some Wriiten Form Somewhere But I Think You Should Know The Time Before You Do The Crime
Sample
Giving People A Hard Time On The Enet Or Phone Calls 1 Warning 2nd Time 30 Days 3rd Time 1 Year 4th Time 5 Years

Punching For Bad Driving 1st Time 30 Days 2nd 1 Year 3rd 5 Years

Running Someone Over After The Race 1st Time 5 Years 2nd Forever

Something Like This ,but What I Have Seen Is That It Depends On Who You Are And Who You Know, Not Always The Same Punishment For The Same Crime
Paul

[Xracer]

Paul, you're on the right track but a bit too lenient. In most instances it should be "one strike and you're out".

When is it ever acceptable to intentionally run down another driver? Never (lifetime ban)

When is it ever acceptable to initiate a physical assault against another driver/team member/family member etc.? Never (lifetime ban).

When is it ever acceptable to verbally abuse another boat racer without using profanity? Probably more often than we'd like (go stand in the corner for half an hour and cool off).

When is it ever acceptable (for a boat racer) to use the internet or other public forums to spew hate, filth, vileness, racial epithets, slanderous statements etc.? Never. (should be a lifetime ban) APBA rules are reasonably clear on this last point even though sanctions are more often than not way too lenient. Perhaps our societal propensity for litigation may have something to do with that.

[Joe J]

I was BS'ing with a buddy who races road courses on bikes, ( cannot remember the true name).

He was telling me that the last time he was in an accident, it was caused by a rookie. He had to go to the race officails to be sure that this was not classified as his fault, as it goes on their records.

I have no idea how to do it, but maybe some sort of tracking system would help to hold people accountable for their actions.

Joe

[888race]

I Understand Your Point And Agree But?

when you look at sports on tv you see fights in hockey .
,football , baseball nascar , nba ect . nascar wrecks after the race and some name calling are covered in all arenas ticket for running a light or loose driving privalge for 6 months for 1st dui ect ect ect. we want to be like other sports but we don't need to over govern . i have seen suspension of 1 game 1 race or a fine of some sort , but rarley a lifetime suspension or ban for 1st offense and you would think that would have some kind of trial with the persons peers hearing the facts for such a stiff penalty. just for the record i think that is the 1st time i have been called to lenient.
thanks paul

[bill hoctor]

suspension

many,many years ago when i was on council in region 3, myself one big gun from detroit, one ex president and the region chairman sat on a committee to decide the fate of a racer who socked another racer. the socker, a big gun and more at the time.......we gave him a full racing year on the beach!!!!! bill hoctor

[epugh66]

Unfortunately, our officials are also our friends and family and 100% volunteer. It's asking alot of them to decide the fate of someones participation in a hobby that they enjoy as much as you. This in no way excuses any dangerous or inconsiderate behavior. I hate to mention the UIM, but I will. I dont know if it works, but they have a yellow card/ red card system for rules infractions. Perhaps one of our europals will enlighten us.

[Richard K.C. Mo.]

serious'ness required

In a recent study, U of something or another, Tired drivers cause more acciddents than anyone.

Watch out Madd here come Damm.

Don't shoot da messenger.

[Xracer]

many,many years ago when i was on council in region 3, myself one big gun from detroit, one ex president and the region chairman sat on a committee to decide the fate of a racer who socked another racer. the socker, a big gun and more at the time.......we gave him a full racing year on the beach!!!!! bill hoctor

A full year on the beach you say. And that solved the problem? In all too many instances these half-hearted attempts by APBA to sanction merely set precedent for the next knuckle dragging cretin to take another alcohol induced, expletive laced verbal tirade or an unprovoked swing at another racer in front of a couple of spectators that just happen to be in the pits at the time. Or god forbid in front of a group of kids.

Contrary to whatever it was that Richard K.C. Mo. was trying to say about MADD whatever happened to "just say no". One strike and your out of the club with no second chance. Do we really want that type of racer in our environment under any cir***stances? Sometimes I just can't bear it.

[Gordie Miller]

Unfortunately

all this talk is centering on the retaliatory action, if we work diligently to prevent the act which triggers the retaliation in the first place then the whole point is moot. I certainly agree there needs to be some consequence to disuade retaliation, but let's not lose sight of the cause.

[Xracer]

Bingo Gordie!

Now you've got the idea. What needs to happen in this area is for the APBA to up the ante in terms that all current members can understand.

"Grass roots racing", "good ol' boys", NASCAResque hooliganism, grandstand mayhem, on the track altercations, slam-bam-bang-crash racing may work well in some sport-themed ventures. We've seen it just about everywhere in this day and age from tennis to golf to beach volleyball (can you say another Dos Equis and a Corona please no lime) to rowdy fans on the Tour de France but should it be the ideal for our beloved outboard racing?

Is this what we're after if we want our mothers, fathers, wives, husbands, girlfriends and boyfriends to "let their babies grow up to be boat racers"? I think not. As Gordie says "let's not lose sight of the cause".

The APBA needs to set the standards out in plain view for all to see. No compromise on this one. Look professional, act responsibly, make our image become a strong suit for the future growth and sustainability of the sport.

I know, I know, I've heard it a thousand times you just want to go racing and that it's not about image its about the competition, the comraderie, the sportsmanship. Sorry folks. It needs to be about the image, about family values, friendship and the multitude of other factors that make for a more civil society.

And speaking of image, why must we continue to believe that what Mrs. Hill call "dirty pants racing" is de rigueur for our sport. Why did we have so much controversy over a seemingly simple requirement that racers wear a collared shirt. Golf it's not but certainly some form of professional attire shouldn't be that much of a challenge for us to accomodate if it means that community sponsorship of our venues is enhanced by the appearance of a professional looking, well behaved group of folks. Whew! I think I'm over it now.

[888race]

so here is the question

what caused you all of these emotions, and what do you want apba to do???
paul