This is an open letter to all Mod commissioners and mod members. First, thank you for the opportunity to speak at the recent Detroit meeting regarding the Tohatsu D issue. Whether you know it or not, your time was appreciated. Here is what I have to say: At last year's Seattle annual meeting, Mark Weber, APBA president, and Mark Wheeler, vice president, spoke to all of us about the need to look at the overall picture in regards to the health of APBA....which I feel as a commission you did not do in regards to the Tohatsu D motor. On a side note, I was sorry to hear that some people have used this issue to make personel attacks....while we all feed each other a lot of grief in a friendly way, I consider all of the people that I know on the commission good friends....and that will not change. As both Mark's said...the health right now of ABPA is not good...and we all need to look at the big picture when making decisions regarding rule changes etc. D mod used to be one of Seattle Outboard's biggest classes...now it does not even exist...this is partly due to the Mod commission. We run somewhere around 16 racing days a year....with the majority of those races having D mod on the sanction. At some races, we had 8 d mods...you do the math. Some racers, myself included, purchased the Tohatsu to run 2 classes....D stock and D mod...and now I can only run one class. I do understand that I can step up and run Formula E, but I feel having an 80 mph D stock running with a 90 mph formula e is a hazard. J Dub did a good job of presenting his case for including the motor in the class.....I had the fastest time at Oroville, which even then was a second slower then Dan Hauenstein, who runs a 44XS. The fastest D mod time, by Brian Palmquist, was over 10 seconds faster then my heat times......that is a whole lot folks. Here is a situation where racers WANT to race with you...join your catagory, pay entry fee money, and so on down the line, and you have decided that we are not needed or wanted. Folks....the last time a d mod block was produced was 1993......that is 18 years ago.....it is a fact of life that at some point in time, the class will start to decline....and, to make matters worse, the Bass brothers, partly due to your decision, may throw in the towel on producing the Tohatsu D. I do understand that promises were made to the commission regarding obtaining a block to test, and I am sorry that did not happen....I knew nothing about those promises....remember, we are all volunteers, and there are certainly other things in life that are more important then boat racing. What would be wrong with including the Tohatsu D motor in D mod, if it was mandated to run under the stock rules? All it is going to do is increase mod membership, and help clubs income wise. I am simply lost as to why this would not work. Remember, you guys turned away a group of racers that want to support you...keep that in mind. Racerdave,
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Thank you. Honestly, all I want to do is race my hydro. that's all. It should not be that hard to do....if APBA does not want to allow me to do that, I will run it under a diff. sanctioning body. Maybe most of the people involved with racing do not understand that APBA is not the holy god of racing. Dave
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Oroville
Re reading my post, I need to clairify one thing...when I said I had the fastest time at Oroville, I meant among Tohatsu owners. Dan Hauenstein had the fastest overall elim time, running a 44XS, while I had the second fastest overall time, running a Tohatsu D motor. Sorry for the confusion. And I do plan on running a few races this year with the Spokane group, assuming they do not conflict with SOA or CORA races. Racerdave
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I heard You
And to your point, you have some options for your Bass bros. Machine. The secretary of the NBRA lives in WA. Perhaps some clubs out that way should consider snactioning an NBRA event out there. In NBRA the Tohatsu's have their own class, it is called DH. The class consists of two engines to choose from. An old Merc 40CI Mod engine that APBA used to run in MOD, or your engine. In NBRA it is a VERY competitive class. You better have your stuff running top notch if you want to win. The Mercs are fast and the Tahotsu is fast. It is a guess to which one will win. Also, there is no height rule. There are no prop rules, etc. you get the picture ?
To add to this, it is a full field in both hydro and runabout typically. I was lucky one year and won DR Nat's using a 40CI Merc that someone loaned me.
As I have read about the Tahotsu wanting in 750CCM the last few years I feel your time might be better spent pursuing some sanctions in NBRA where you can run it in a Mod class.
Oh, one tidbit I forgot, the stock 44XS is also a legal engine in this class. They typically don't win the races, although Brian Palmquist did last year at the NBRA Nationals I believe in DH. The 44XS is not legal to step up into EH (44CI Mod Mercs). It is also a stand alone class. So here the NBRA has made your Tahotsu a class to race and listened to the drivers. In addition Bass Machines is a banner sponsor of the NBRA events.Dave Mason
Just A Boat Racer
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Originally posted by daveracerdsh View PostRe reading my post, I need to clairify one thing...when I said I had the fastest time at Oroville, I meant among Tohatsu owners. Dan Hauenstein had the fastest overall elim time, running a 44XS, while I had the second fastest overall time, running a Tohatsu D motor. Sorry for the confusion. And I do plan on running a few races this year with the Spokane group, assuming they do not conflict with SOA or CORA races. RacerdaveMike - One of the Montana Boys
If it aint fast make it look good
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Originally posted by mdaspit View PostI think that ya'll should consider changing Dave's red reputaion box to green...
He's earned it.
Now I will have to figure out how it got to be that way to start with.
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Racing..
Thanx Dave for the info...I may end up going to a few more SLORA races this year...they really are a lot of fun, and they have some fast stuff. As far as why don't I pursue a Mercury block? I have been running Mercs since 1984 and it was time for a change. It is certainly not going to kill me or other Tohatsu owners if the commission does not want us. I am not only trying to further my own agenda, but looking out for the welfare of other Tohatsu (and potential) Tohatsu owners. Again, there is sure nothing personel in what is going on. It just sorta sucks when you go to a race with a pretty expensive rig and only be able to run it 2 times a day....sometimes you think why bother, which is what I am trying to avoid. Racerdave
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Bang for the buck, D style
I understand completely where Dave is coming from on this, and I think the Mod commision are shickensh@ts for not letting the Tohatsu in. My first outboard purchase was an old roundnose hydro with an OMC. One of the main selling points was that my kid could run J, then A when he got older, and then AXS came along and **** man, did I get some GREAT value for my initial investment. Bought a runabout and for a couple years there the kid could run 6 classes with 2 boats and 1 motor. Fast forward to the young man I have driving now and we can still run 5 classes with 2 boats and one motor, a Y302 in CSH, CSR, 20SSH, OSY, and 25SSR. That my friends is VALUE. I feel sorry for the guys that come to the lake, generally work their butts off in patrol boats and stuff because my driver is on the water ALL DAY, just to run 2 heats. Like I said, you guys that are somehow scared of a stock Tohatsu, and are willing to cut your participant numbers in half to save the precious few with the fast old Merc iron (I wonder who he could be talking about?) are just flat ass wrong. As an SOA race director I will have to do without the extra 4-5 entries that Tohatsu D Mods would generate, and that part sucks too. Thanks a lot guys.Moby Grape Racing
"Fast Boats Driven Hard"
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Class stuff
Thank u tony for sticking up for me...it means a lot. Like I said earlier..all I want to do is race my boat. That's it. I just do not get the animosity towards the new D motor...here is a very small business that is trying to sell a few race motors..and they have got **** on in a big way. I see it also with Yamato and with Sidewinder. I don't get it. Are we all that afraid to move forward with new ideas? Racers have to understand that at some point, when motors are not produced anymore, that the class will decline....there is nothing you can do about it. Nothing. We all have to look at the big picture....and that includes new motors. Yes, there may be a lot of 44 blocks sitting around....but does that include rods? Cranks? Etc? I put together what I thought would be a nationals quality 44xs block in 09....and I had a heck of a time finding good parts...is that what we want a new racer to go thru? Remember.I have been in this for 25 years.......and I had a heck of a time getting good stuff. I honestly am at the point where it would be so easy to just park everything and go play with my ski boat for a summer...who knows. 20 years down the line we are gonna look back and go...how could we be this stupid in the way we are dealing with stuff. This is the last thing I am gonna say on the matter. Racerdave
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Dave, if you come and run with us you will get 6 heats a day if you run the two classes. Thats 12 runs for the weekend plus if you come to a race with testing you will be worn out. Testing is usually noon to 4-5 in the afternoon. Can your Tohatsu handle that much run time without a rebuild!!Mike - One of the Montana Boys
If it aint fast make it look good
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