CSH hull

[shouldnt-do-it]

Hello all,
I am new to this game and I was wondering if I could use this hull as the basis for a CSH rig. I am referring to the H4 hull. Thanks in advance.

Any body know anything about H-4 or this 500cc boat that I have for sale?

[HRTV]

Hello all,
I am new to this game and I was wondering if I could use this hull as the basis for a CSH rig. I am referring to the H4 hull. Thanks in advance.

Welcome, without beating around the bush the answer is a firm no! post your real name and location so the members of HydroRacer.Net can point you in the right direction.

If you go to the buy and sell section of the site you will find a large selection of CSH rigs from bare boat to turn key. The key to starting off on the right foot is to give us your stats, age location weight etc. since this is a sport that has become very regional specific when it comes to classes.

Dan

[shouldnt-do-it]

OK here goes,
Dewey Vicknair
Lititz,PA
42
5'9"
175 lbs.
I think I would prefer a laydown over a kneeler. I don't think that the knees could take it.

[HRTV]

OK here goes,
Dewey Vicknair
Lititz,PA
42
5'9"
175 lbs.
I think I would prefer a laydown over a kneeler. I don't think that the knees could take it.

Hey Dewey,

You are in a great location for CSH, I'm going to let the active drivers from region 3 & 4 chime in from here, your going to be in good hands. You should also try to attend the Spring Millville, NJ race and introduce your self. Going to Millville you will also give you a first hand look at all the different classes maybe even a ride if one of the drivers has a little spare time before or after the races.

The New Jersey boating laws have changed over the last few years so don't quote me on the "test" ride thing since this might not be possible in NJ under the new laws. Its still a great race to show up at and ask questions.

I believe there is also a early Lock Haven, PA race this year so clear your calendar :-) your going to have a ball.

[shouldnt-do-it]

Dan, thanks for the help.

Dewey

[Gunjumper]

Dewey, if a laydown is more your taste, the US Title Series has plenty of options, they are the 'PRO' category here in APBA. Stock Outboard offers kneeldown racing with many events in our area, I am up in Quakertown about an hour North East of you. Check out the schedule thread here on Hydroracer for the Stock Outboard races, or contact me at 267.716.6901. For the laydown/PRO races, look for the 'US Title Series' website or go to 'apba-racing.com' for a complete overview of all the categories. Keep the questions coming, don't hesitate to ask. Also, consider changing the title of this thread to 'New guy in Region 3', the CSH title will only attract a specific crowd, just an opinion... Greg Lyons

[ram95]

New Guy - In good hands!!

OK Dewey, here goes.
You're 42, an old guy... just ask the kids.
You weigh 175.... on a good day after a month of eating salads.
You're 5' 9"... perfect height. There's lots of good 'previously driven' cut suits out there that will fit you.
You think your knees might be a weak point? ...maybe in an A, B, or C hydro but not in a good D!!! Besides, knee-pad materials are state-of-the-art and cheap (spelled Wally World blue foam pads for 8 bucks)

Now, let's take a moment to check things out here. What kind of competition have you been involved in? Motorcycle drags? Motorcycle road racing? Karts? AA Fuel Dragsters? None... but you just want to nail it and go fast? Good! Assuming you've been driving a vehicle on the freeway and in city traffic for 20 plus years, you're qualified to drive a D Stock hydro. Not only that.... YOU DESERVE to drive a D. A D won't beat your knees to a pulp. A D actually goes pretty much where you point it. A D has a rewind starter. A D will accelerate if you happen to be a little late on the start.

Yes Dewey... you are now in good hands. Go out there and buy a good used D hydro with a 44XS Merc and get in the mix. You'll find D hydro drivers will actually help you thru the 1st turn and not cream you... because, we need every entry we can get. And, once you get your feet wet after a year or two, you can sell your rig, get a new O'Connor boat and run a Bass Machines Tohatsu. You'll think you're driving a Cadillac and the motor is bullet-proof.

Good luck Dewey... see you at the Lock.

Alex
12A "the Mad Russian" DSH

[Dave M]

Laydown Hull

You can do well in stock outboard using a laydown hull. You have three catgories to choose from in APBA, which is strong in your area. You have Stock, Mod and Pro. Typically if you are a gearhead and like to tinker a little and not worry about getting everything in stock order Mod is the way to go. If you prefer to really get into new concepts and anything goes for modifications to an existing engine, or creating your own, Pro is the way to go.

If you want to get your feet wet you are going about it the right way. The natural transisition seems to go from Stock to Mod to Pro and beyond. It all depends on your wants and desires. Nothing wrong with staying in stock forever either. You will have a lot of fun with it. Good competition and usually lots of entries in CSH and almost any race.

At any rate, if you want a laydown hull, you should look around for a used 125CC pro hydro that is a laydown version. The specs are close enough that you will have a good solid ride for CSH. As you want to be more competitive you can eventually look around for another used boat or build one yourself, or order a new one. You should be in the hunt with a 125CCH laydown hull, or better yet find a used OSY400 hull, but those are harder to find in laydown version here in the U.S..

The best advice to you is to contact Greg Lyons as he indicated his phone number. Maybe you guys could meet halfway and grab a bite and a beer and talk. You will be in good hands and it is always better to talk in person.

Welcome to the addiction !

[blueskyracer]

If you go to the thread of new boats for 2010 you will see two Laydown CSH's that I have built for folks this year. They are configured after 125 laydown hydros. I hope to be finishing the second one in two weeks.

We will post how testing goes after the ice clears. One was made for a person with mutiple knee surgerys and the other was made for a senior person with past knee problems.

The biggest change for both boats was that the transom had to be raised to accommodate the taller Yamato 302 engine.

[DeanFHobart]

Laydown CSH

Hello Dewey Vicknair,

I think a laydown CSY and OSY 400 boat can be competetive.

Go to www.yamatoracing.co.uk. Mike Ward is the yamato dealer in England and Europe.

On his web site you will see mostly laydown OSY 400 hydros. In Europe they run Beach Starts, in other words the drivers in the boats ready for the gun and then the motors are started. The boats are set-up to get on plane fast.
And they run more boats per heat, so the water gets rough.

In the US we run flying clock starts. But I am convinced a laydown CSY and OSY 400 boat can be successful here. KEEP IT LIGHT.

The European boats are composite and weigh less than 100 lbs. More like 80 lbs.

There are used OSY 400 boats on Mike Ward's web site. Mike would know what the shipping cost would be.

You are right..... a laydown boat would be kind to your knees.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good Luck,

Dean Hobart...............................