Stock Pickle Rules

[dholt]

Anyone out there recall what the rule for stock will be in 2010?

Rounded pickles for boats built after a certain date?...or for all hydros regardless of age?

Thx.

Dana

[csh2z]

Dana,
For all hydro's. 1/2" min. radius and 1/2" thickness measured perpendicular to the radius. The radius can be from any plane. (horizontal or verticle or anywhere in between.)

[14J]

I left Scott Reed a message. I know there were drawings presented at the nationals meeting. John do you remember who has those?

[DeanFHobart]

Different Than The UIM Rule

Dana,
For all hydro's. 1/2" min. radius and 1/2" thickness measured perpendicular to the radius. The radius can be from any plane. (horizontal or verticle or anywhere in between.)

Here is the UIM Rule 522.02 on page 189: "All hydroplane hulls with pickle forks must have sponson leading edges of a rounded surface of at least
50 mm diameter in one direction."

For us Americans 50 mm diameter is equal to 2" diameter and 25 mm radius is equal to 1" radius.

So my question is why is our rule different ?

Draw out a 1/2" radius.... That is not much of a "Rounded Surface".

A 1" radius is better, but still not "Rounded" very much.

The boats built prior to the new rule should just be grandfathered.

Regards To All,

[Jack Stotts]

Farmer, I don't think your radius is correct. For the Mods it is 1 inch radius.

[propnuts]

1/2 is correct I believe

Farmer, I don't think your radius is correct. For the Mods it is 1 inch radius.

Stock is special.

[csh2z]

I'm 99% sure that I'm right on this but I will double check.
Dean, there are a couple of reasons we didn't go with the Mod/Pro rule. The question asked at the meeting was "Why impose a safety rule that only affects 10% of the boats on the water?" We felt it was more important to make ALL the boats on the water at least somewhat safer than just a few new boats. We believe that these specifications can be met with 100% of the boats currently in use.

[DeanFHobart]

Safety

I'm 99% sure that I'm right on this but I will double check.
Dean, there are a couple of reasons we didn't go with the Mod/Pro rule. The question asked at the meeting was "Why impose a safety rule that only affects 10% of the boats on the water?" We felt it was more important to make ALL the boats on the water at least somewhat safer than just a few new boats. We believe that these specifications can be met with 100% of the boats currently in use.

John,

The question asked at the meeting was "Why impose a safety rule that only affects 10% of the boats on the water?"

Because that 10% might injure someone. I'm assumming you're talking about D Stock Hydro plus what ?

We could certainly have a separate rule for D Stock Hydro.

Best Regards To All,

[Big Don]

How are we going to know if or when the boat was made. I know of a driver who started a boat 8 years ago and it just hit the water this year.

What if I have a boat on the jig right now that will be done in about a month and won't hit the water until next spring?

What if the driver says it was built in 2009?

[BP125V]

John,

The question asked at the meeting was "Why impose a safety rule that only affects 10% of the boats on the water?"

Because that 10% might injure someone. I'm assumming you're talking about D Stock Hydro plus what ?

We could certainly have a separate rule for D Stock Hydro.

appreciate the concern Dean. Don't forget that this rule is a MINIMUM and most owners of 20 hydros, 25 hydros, C hydros and D hydros will have their current boats modified to not only meet but exceed the new Stock rule. Ditto for new boats. In fact we have new boats here in Region 7 this year that far exceed the new Stock rule and are more in line with the PRO rule.

The dimension that was selected was done so with the knowledge that it not only was going to apply to ASH's thru DSH's but to JH's and AXSH's as well as the J class committee told the Stock Commission that the J category would adopt whatever rule the Stock Outboard did. Stock Outboard adopted a smaller radius and thickness since our boats, for the most part, are lighter and go slower than the boats the original UIM rule addressed. Also, if we adopted the UIM rule the majority of JH, AXSH, and ASH boats would have to completely eliminate their pickle forks in order to comply.

Again, the bottom line is that the rule is a minimum and boat owners are encouraged to put as big a radius / thickness on the front of the pickles as possible.

Bill

[dholt]

Donny,

The rule applies to all hydros regardless of when built.

[dholt]

Ooops...I meant Don Jr.

[Big Don]

Dana,

I'm changing my name on here because no one ever knows which one of us it is. Donny said that when ever I post stuff people think it's him and there is no way he wants people thinking that.

Guess I had better go read the rule???

I guess I could put a picture of me on there instead of one of the kids to try and make it clearer.

[BP125V]

who?

Dana,

I'm changing my name on here because no one ever knows which one of us it is. Donny said that when ever I post stuff people think it's him and there is no way he wants people thinking that.

Guess I had better go read the rule???

I guess I could put a picture of me on there instead of one of the kids to try and make it clearer.

Don,

having your user name with your kid's boat number does'nt help either.

Bill

[csh2z]

Dean,
To clarify; Probably or possibly 90% of the Mod boats, due only to their age, do not have to meet that rule. If your boat is more than 2 years old, according to the rule, you could have spearheads on the front of your sponsons and it would be legal indefinitely.