Y-80 / Sidewinder Controversy

[M721son]

I'm thinking of running in 25ssr, like everyone else the budget is limited si I want to make sure if I buy a Y80 it would be legal?

[AZ Outlaw]

Here is what the Stock Outboard Steering Commitee presented to the Stock Commission and was approved in 2007. Hope you have planned $4500 toward purchasing a new Sidewinder in the future?

[Sonny]

I'm thinking of running in 25ssr, like everyone else the budget is limited si I want to make sure if I buy a Y80 it would be legal?

If you are refering to the Y80 that is for sale here in the other thread by Dougmc for 1200.00, It is a good deal. He's a good guy and he has fast stuff. You will be able to run the 80 well into the future. The guy who won the nationals this year was probably useing a good 80.

[B Walker]

Y-80 is not likely to be a legal motor for 25SSR in APBA for much longer.

BW

[Tim Weber]

Isn't it always a wise move to obsolete equipment in a recesion? I thought that our boat counts were up at all races this year?

Tim

[sws115]

i might need to know this info one day so im just subscribing
thanks for the posting

[steve smith 150m]

The elimination of the 102&302 in 25ssr may very well kill the class at the marathon nationals. At least 60% are Yamatos and some years even higher. Most of these boats were built for Yamatos, not Mercs. Many of the racers only run a couple of marathons a year, and have less than $5000. in the boat and motor. I can understand these rules being applied to short course where the majority of 25ssr is run. In tough economic times we struggle to attract enough boats to keep the Marathon Nationals viable. Years ago we would have over 300 entries and now we are around 90 on a good year. To loose a whole class would terrible for this race. Many of our 25 racers have to add weight to make 430#. If they all had to go to C to run Yamatos, they may have to an additional 50# of weight. I wonder if the commission would consider allowance of the Yamatos in 25ssr for marathons only. I would like to hear from anyone who would support this or has any thoughts of what can be done.

[Kev43V]

Steve write up a proposal to do so. Then foward it to your elected SORC rep.
I am by far not an expert at this sort of thing. But I would suggest trying to come up with every reason you can, that could be presented to the(SORC) to not do so. Then word your proposal to address those reasons. That way you are not just stating why you feel it should be left in the class for marathons. IE cover all the bases you possibly can.

[Hal 212M]

I want to run the Top O', but I can't afford a new sidewinder. I am being told that the 302 is the best way to go, but I am in the category, where I would likey have to add 50 # to my boat. I belong in the B class (or 15ssr), but it sounds like that is disappearing or becoming the most expensive class to be a part of. I want to get involved in racing, but it seems as though I may have come at a bad time. It seems like the sport is going through a transition time that would be very costly to new start ups. I support your comments Steve.

[Kev43V]

hmmm
there are just as many 15Ci hotrods out there as there were. with or without the new sidewinder. I doubt the price of a used one has gone up that much.
So why would B/soon to be 15, suddenly be the most expensive class to get into?
If I am mistaken please inlighten me

[Hal 212M]

I didn't mean to say most expensive overall, but the most expensive choice available to me, for my size. Maybe I misunderstood. I thought, from the chart above, that the sidewinder would be the only 15ssr motor allowed in the future. How much is a used Hot Rod? How long could it be "viable" for?

[csh2z]

You would still be able to race the Yamato's in 25SSR as a local class. The only difference is you don't recieve APBA national points.

[wildcild95p]

so from what i have read on this from the post, is that anyone wanting to get into our sport, or are currently in the sport, then $4500 will have to be spent to race just to buy the motor. so to get into say 20 ssh it would be $4500 for motor, $1500 for kevlars and jacket, and a good boat $3000 that is $9000, myself i would go 45 racing, it would cheaper to get into,,, the yamato's have been around, and will be around, this telling everyone that they are going to have to buy a new motor is not good for the sport at all!

[csh2z]

The time line has changed since the original was written. I will get the current timeline on hydroracer asap. I will probably start a new thread which I'd like to see on the front page until or if something changes.

[csh2z]

Effective Nov. 1, 2010 ( for 2011 and beyond ) Yamato will no longer be legal for APBA points in 25SSR.

Effective Nov. 1, 2010 ( for 2011 and beyond ) Restricted Yamato 102 will no longer be legal for APBA points in 20SSH.