Any Merc C Mods still racing?

[Top Gun 3-Z]

Boat racen is Not what you no its who you no.........

[Sonny]

aaahhh....uuhh uumm...Legal gearfoot for c mod?????

[Dave M]

Any

aaahhh....uuhh uumm...Legal gearfoot for c mod?????

Run anything you want to.


Top Gun.. not true.. it is 16:21 not 21:16..

There are different ratios available on Hatchet gearboxes that can turn a mediocer prop into a great prop. If a fella had the time and money to experiment with ratios and set up I have no doubt a C Mod Merc, to current specs, could out run the best Yamato 102 to current specs.

[swheeler]

The biggest problem the Merc guys will face is not a lack of special parts or a lack of know how.
As soon as someone starts to run well with a Merc I'm afraid the Yamato Mafia will insist on a "parity rule".
Just look at the recent action in 350 mod hydro. At least someone will have the honor of getting a rule named after them.

[David_L6]

TO all you merc guys the only way your gonna run with A 102 302 202 is 2 run a 21/16 gear foot .

I don't buy that. At least not for one mile courses. That's possibly true for short courses.

[modhydro]

30-H mods

Steve,

How is yours coming along? Maybe they will name it after you!

I am getting mine back together, so we will have two in IOA.

Steve Roskowski

[mercguy]

I don't buy that. At least not for one mile courses. That's possibly true for short courses.

I agree David, a 1:1 is just as good.............it all comes down to the PROP! Problem I HAD with 16/21's, is that the motor needed such a large prop, the little pinion gear would not hold up for ME>

[swheeler]

Steve,

How is yours coming along? Maybe they will name it after you!

I am getting mine back together, so we will have two in IOA.

Steve Roskowski

I think those guys already have a name for me. I won't have the C ready for the start of the season, maybe by mid season.

[Team B&H]

The last guy who won both the APBA and AOF Nationals the same year (1996) with a 30-H ran 1:1 gears. At the AOF race he also got a chance to run a new Yamato powered boat for Dan Parker in the AOF 102 Mod class and won that class as well. Funny how he bought his own Yamato that winter and the Mercury disappeared. And no one since then has set more records or won more APBA nationals than his Yamato CMH rig.

I never did understand why he switched. After all, his Merc was faster!

[David_L6]

Does he still have access to that Merc that he won those two Nationals with?

[B Walker]

Fact-o-the day:

a 30-H holds the kilo record for CMR in APBA.

82.558 MPH
Class 05040 - CMR Saturday, March 19, 1988 Record Type KILO
Location WATERFORD, CA Driver LLOYD MIZE Owner LLOYD MIZE
Boat BULLET Hull Type SORENSEN Engine MERCURY

here is the CMH:

87.397 MPH
Class 05240 - CMH Sunday, March 14, 2004 Record Type KILO
Location OROVILLE, CA Driver BOB WARTINGER Owner BOB WARTINGER
Boat KINESIS Hull Type SORENSEN Engine YAMATO 102

[Dave M]

No Comparrison

Fact-o-the day:

a 30-H holds the kilo record for CMR in APBA.



here is the CMH:

You can't compare Kilo records with competion in an oval. Different rules, different boats, etc. It is an all out assault on how fast one can get those little engines to go in a straight line. In my opinion only, it is basically a different category all together.

Besides, unless you want to do a ton of testing with new props, set-ups, and find all those so called special parts, you are better off with a Yamato for competition. Pull the rope and go, easy to maintain, easy to work on, dependable, and available in quantity. Anyone who races a merc C today is simply a person who has a passion for that engine and likes to tinker.

[Team B&H]

David,
No he doesn't have access to that 30-H anymore. It met its demise at Dayton Ohio on a CMR along with its owner. I don't know if it was ever reassembled after that. Ricky Engler may still have it or pieces of it. However it was kind of a twin to another motor that we think still exists, last heard of in Canada.

[ram95]

C-Mod seems like one of the really affordable "mod" classes to enter. If you use a 30 merc there are a few more variables... ie, things that can go wrong. First, you've got 4 cylinders not 2. You have a mag with bearings, a pulley, and a belt; a rotor cap; 4 plug wires to short out. You have 2 carbs with w hi-speed needles (nobody EVER changes the packing glands) which may vibrate loose and cause you to fall off. Your baffle in front of your carbs may not block the water from being injested! Your Merc lower unit isn't as robust as the Yamato. Your exhaust 'filler block' may not be sealing well, or it may be 'pressing' against the cylinders to heaviliy! Your crankcase pressure may be crap causing you not to pump enough fuel to your 2 carbs! The carbs you've chosen may be bad news.

Bottom line is obviously to test the heck out of your rig and fix all these things.. REALLY fix them.. then find a boat and prop that works. That's probably the reason the YAMATO's are the motor of choice. But, as others have said, it makes you feel all the more stronger when you end up out front running a Mercury 30.

Don Hurd has a couple pretty potent Merc's downeast.

Alex

[STEVE FRENCH]

Who's got a Current Rig/hull that will carry a CMH MERC/WIZARD avail?
Alan is gonn'a leave his DMH rig in Florida so If ya have something CMH/DSH that will carry a 4-cyl MERC that ya wann'a see run at Franklin/Waterford, Ont.....P/M me....asap....Mine has 14x15 hatchet/short Bayer tower.....Should be a good one!....You or me drive!
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