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[spunky64w]

Davey's right

Don- I'm guessing that you're thinking of the Fox River in Waukesha. Every time we drive past it we have to hear about how "we used to race there...and there were 2 bouy turns on each side....and Sam Hemp ran it up on shore one year... and you think Oshkosh has tight corners."

It also happens to be the park in which my parents had their wedding pictures taken. Go figure.

[csh2z]

Definitely Delaware Water Gap Kitatinny Beach. Two bouy turns (about 10' apart), used the whole river to start. They'd run stock and alky there, always had a good turn out. I think they limited it to 8 boat max. per heat. Think about 8 D hydros going down the chute making a right hand dogleg, sound like fun?I think the last time we raced there was 1965. To visit some of the places we used to race at, it's amazing, most of these sights wouldn't even be considered nowadays.

[sax]

Was in Zanesville last weekend and had to make a trip to the old course
we ran on the river.......the water was up and still looked narrow. It's
hard to believe that we ran the alky divisionals there in '66 and the
stock divisionals a few years before that.

[John Schubert]

Water Gap

Definitely Delaware Water Gap Kitatinny Beach. Two bouy turns (about 10' apart), used the whole river to start. They'd run stock and alky there, always had a good turn out. I think they limited it to 8 boat max. per heat. Think about 8 D hydros going down the chute making a right hand dogleg, sound like fun?I think the last time we raced there was 1965. To visit some of the places we used to race at, it's amazing, most of these sights wouldn't even be considered nowadays.

Yeah John, was a fun race with a full firld of D's, Timmons, O'Dea, Okie, and DiFebo, and others. Milling was always a challenge & setting up for the run at the clock was difficult because you couldn't see it from around the bend. Even more difficult was Sea Isle City, tidal waters same milling issue , one buoy turns & at low tide not much water. Clock on the left there as well.

[bethann]

Starting Clock

I think we could be on to something. No Gun Jumpers or 500 Ft. Buoy !

[John Schubert]

Delaware Water Gap

Yeah John, was a fun race with a full firld of D's, Timmons, O'Dea, Okie, and DiFebo, and others. Milling was always a challenge & setting up for the run at the clock was difficult because you couldn't see it from around the bend. Even more difficult was Sea Isle City, tidal waters same milling issue , one buoy turns & at low tide not much water. Clock on the left there as well.

Forgot to mention that I was one of the "D" drivers as well.

[John Schubert]

Delaware Water Gap

Some pictures. Start of ASH, can you name some of the drivers, start of CSH, again, can you ID some of the boats, 1st turn CSH & ASH winner Dave Schubert.

[champhotrod]

Delaware Water Gap

Dave Schubert was correct about the photo.
I have not actually been there myself but I was told they used the whole river to start. Great place for photos cause you can get real close to the boats.

Photo by Dennis Swanson.

Cooper Jess
92-W

[CSR4C]

The race at Ellis Lake, Marysville CA still has the start with the clock on the left side of the course since it is a much better location for the judges stand. The races all end in 1/2 laps.

Darrell

[csh2z]

I recognize Burner and Dick O'Dea but that's about it. I was only 7-8 yrs. old. You were the reason I got into hydros as a kid. I couldn't wait to run D Hydro just to kick your butt. Too bad I never got the chance.
Sea Isle City, now there was a race course. One bouy in each turn, starting line was also the second turn bouy. Of course, the best part was milling in the marinain and out between the charter boats and docks. Sled pushed me out in the first turn in JU right into the weeds. I had to get out of the boat and walk it out of the weeds get back in and finish the race. 1966 my first year racing.

[John Schubert]

Water Gap

ASH start. top DiFebo, Jupe(?), Don't know, Burner, on left Jane Smith, Ed Wulf, either Don Pontius or Ron Althouse.

CSH start clockwise from top. Top ?, Bill Parker, John Schubert,Tony Rodriquez in a Mishey hydro, 70-N, I think was Ed Wulf's father-n-law or some relative, Dick O'Dea

[Tom10W]

Wisconsin Racing

I love the old pictures. I thought I saw John Runne in one of them : )

Commenting on the Wisconsin river racing, Al Becherine (sp), Hank Menzies brother-in-law did end up on shore in 25SSH at Waukesha, WI. He ended up on his back on the rock bank. Another time Joe Zolkoske Jr. went a little wide at Fremont, WI and ran into a dock that was sticking out. Another course at New London, WI you would fall off plane on half the corners.

One last story was when Greg Talbot and Hank Menzies got tangled up in a corner at Winneconne, WI in the 1960's in BSH. Greg was pitched out and his leg kinked the throttle cable. The boat kept going, hit the shore, flew through the air and hit my grandfather, Harry Kargus in the back. Grandpa had just pushed me and my cousin out of the way!

That was Wisconsin river racing.

Tom Kargus

[ryan_4z]

Sounds like fun Tom!

[champhotrod]

Kargus & Winneconne

Tom,
I was there the day that accident with Talbot happened and was just down the beach from you guys and your grandfather. I'll see later on if I can find a newspaper article about that.

Cooper

[Steve Warnock]

Winneconne!!!

That was a tough place!

It was either our 1st year or 2nd in ASH (the 70's KG4 Days). So we stole the start and was the first time I ever made it througth the 1st turn in 1st place, down the back stretch heading to turn #2 and the BRIDGE. Little did I know about the air flow and tail walked it for 1st time ever. Checked the shorts and restarted, heading to #2. Going around there was a guy in the water and NO BOAT??? Later to be identified as THE SPUD Hemp!!!
Going around the turn I looked over to the shore and there's this ASH - UNMANNED heading to the shore. Hit the rocks and the motor breaks though the transom. The rest I didn't see but as the story goes the owner John Biever (Of B&H) ran over and completed the destruction of the boat by crushing the decks. No one was hurt. WOW!!!

Warbs