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  • UIM Meeting Notes / Safety and Elections Topics

    Submitted by Bob Wartinger:

    These were the proposals that affected the O-classes directly…

    Rule 503.12, Ballast definitions of what constitutes ballast and attachment requirements.…..Passed Withdrawn from the original rule proposal were statements regarding the percentage of total boat weight, (e.g. 10 &#37 which could make up the total weight of the ballast (challenge for inspection….for one thing. A committee was formed to work up improved wording for the intent….I’m assigned to the committee along wit a couple of others)


    Rule 522.01, Ist paragraph, “For O125,O175,O250,and O350 the hull must be only of a hydroplane type with a (maximum sponson length of 60% of the total length of the hull Deleted). driver in kneeling or prone position only. “ Passed



    Rule 522.04, Deleted the note in the rule book that a safety cockpit is required for a sitting driver in O350……to be consistent with rule 522.01 change above essentially, the rule book does not now recognize the possibility of reinforced cockpits in O 350……there were concerns expressed that if re-enforced cockpits (capsules) would be required, the class would diminish. This will be re-looked at depending on accident statistics.



    Rule 522.02 Reinforced cockpit sides…… Add the new sentence in bold type….” For retrofit of existing boats, reinforcement shall be 2 layers of a minimum of 315 grm. Kevlar material to a total6mm minimum thickness. This should be bonded to clean wood, free of varnish, paint, etc. Alternatively, a panel fabricated as described in the paragraph above, meeting the dimensional requirements, may be bonded to the interior surface of the existing cockpit sides to provide reinforcement.”



    This additional sentence recognizes another technique in use for reinforcing cockpit sides.



    Rule 522.04 Minimum Dimensions Add a minimum weight with driver for O125 as 170 kg. No minimum weight without driver specified.

    Proposed by Estonia…Supported by Russia/Poland (needs two countries to support to be a valid proposal). I will quote verbatim the justification from the rule proposal page as it was presented.

    “Justification: Rule with no weight limit for O125 boats was decided before the year 2000, when boats had a best lap speed less than 90 kp/h and a best speed on the heat 82 kp/h. On 2005 best lap speed was already 100hph and an average in the heat 98 kp/h. Now these boats go even faster. O-250 got minimum weights after accidents at speed of 110 kp/h. We can’t wait for such a moment.

    Also from a sports position of view we are having boats weights from 80-110 kg and drivers from 60-90. That means boat weight with driver can vary from 140 to 220kg. For 125cc3 engines it is a very big difference and makes some drivers give up. With new addition to the rule we are getting more safety, more competition and less cost.”



    There were 31 voting countries in attendance….vote was 27 for, 1 against, 3 abstentions. Every discussion on the subject indicated that all the other countries that run O125 were for the change.



    No proposal was submitted regarding weights for O175 and I believe that is due to the fact that the class is primarily seen as US phenomenon. With the manufactures building O 175 motors…perhaps the class will grow in other parts of the world….



    Rule 528.10 Machinery-Sole Modifications allowed……Applies to all the stock type motors, including OSY 400. .I won’t reprint al the text here due to it’s length. It defines that in the case of an over bore, the maximum amount of material that may be removed in a passage behind the liner to align with the port. This change can be seen when the new rule books are printed or I can fax it to anyone who is interested.



    Rule 508.09.02 Testing Procedures…..Density test for non-gasoline fuels….density value reduced from 0.85 to “be less than 0.830 kg/dm3.”



    Cleaned up the areas where a minimum restraint belt of 75mm was required. Changed those various parts of the rule book to 50mm min. for the lap belt, 75 mm. min. for the shoulder belts



    As usual, there were well over 100 proposals counting circuit racing, aquabike, offshore, pleasure navigation, etc. and about 20 percent had safety implications. The proposals are submitted in August and distributed to the 54 countries for review prior to the meeting…..meetings during the week can result in slight modifications or withdrawal of proposals. Other than safety proposals, care is exercised because there are by-law rules that prohibit a failed proposal from being submitted for three years after failure to pass. There is some discussion about changing that by-law….but…it’s also a reason why the process has so many steps…..in other words, trying to maintain some stability in the rules.



    World Championships O-125, Tallin, Estonia, July 10-12, 2009….O-250, Krylbo, Sweden, August 22-23, 2009, O-350, Auronzo, Italy, August 29-30, 2009, O-500, World Formula Circuit, see UIM website, O-700, Srem, Poland, June 27-28, 2009, OSY 400, Chodziez, Poland, July, 4-5, 2009.



    Elections,( Americans elected)



    Charlie Strang, Senior Vice Pres.,



    Fred Hauenstein, Pres. Sports Commission, Bob Wartinger, Pres. Safety/Medical Commission, ( Commission elections are voted on by the attending countries…..members of the commissions (8) are also voted on)



    Safety Cockpit Committee and F-1 Committee, Ziggy Boettle ( Committee heads are voted on by the Council members)



    Mark Weber attends as a voting member of the Council as APBA Pres.



    Other:

    Tom Stanley presented an analysis of driver restraints exploring the head clearance issue.


    There was a Commissioner’s Seminar with presentations by Gordon Sutherland/Phil Stacey on duties of commissioner though the lead-up to the race, the race itself and afterwards, Ziggy Boettle on inspection, and Bob Wartinger on a variety of safety related subjects, (well-being of the commissioner, decision making considerations, psychology, etc.).

    Many other subjects and activities occurred….be glad to answer additional questions..

    Take care,

    Bob
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  • #2
    And There you Have It

    Now O-125 will have minimum weights for boats. O-175 does not because viewed as a USA class?? Are we (USA) part of we (UIM)???? Do not worry, O-175 will catch on in Europe and will have minimum weights.
    David Weaver

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    • #3
      It doesn't make any sense that we are the only country in the World not following the UIM rules. We need real O classes and the only world recognised stock class here in the USA.
      Nic Thompson

      www.tbrboats.com

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      • #4
        Nic

        Originally posted by nicf14 View Post
        It doesn't make any sense that we are the only country in the World not following the UIM rules. We need real O classes and the only world recognised stock class here in the USA.
        Did you notice those guys wearing Speedo's?? Are you going in for one those also??
        David Weaver

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        • #5
          I agree, every safety regulation that the European drivers have to follow, we should have to as well. Since the APBA is part of the U.I.M. it only makes sense. Plus it would improve safety. If we got rid of the clock we would have money to buy a scale, just a thought.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by David Weaver View Post
            Did you notice those guys wearing Speedo's?? Are you going in for one those also??
            When in Rome!
            Nic Thompson

            www.tbrboats.com

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            • #7
              Bad Visual

              Originally posted by nicf14 View Post
              When in Rome!
              Your killing me!

              Chris

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              • #8
                Not as Safe as you think.

                [QUOTE=RyanWarner;117902]Every safety regulation that the European drivers have to follow...QUOTE]


                Ryan,

                There is actually a lot of room for improvement. I was very dissappointed after recieving my Euro boat to find the entire inside of the boat cut out. You could put all the Kevlar and Carbon in the world but with giant holes in the columing sides below the deck it won't do anything. I would take my 2 sheets of American plywood over this thing anyday.

                So for all the time the spend in the meetings over there they could do a lot better. My 2 cents.

                Chris

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE=ChrisH;117911]
                  Originally posted by RyanWarner View Post
                  Every safety regulation that the European drivers have to follow...QUOTE]


                  Ryan,

                  There is actually a lot of room for improvement. I was very dissappointed after recieving my Euro boat to find the entire inside of the boat cut out. You could put all the Kevlar and Carbon in the world but with giant holes in the columing sides below the deck it won't do anything. I would take my 2 sheets of American plywood over this thing anyday.

                  So for all the time the spend in the meetings over there they could do a lot better. My 2 cents.

                  Chris
                  wow, I had no idea that there were actual holes in the boat. From what I've heard the Euro boats perform well, but it seems like there is a lack of quality also.

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                  • #10
                    I Agree

                    [QUOTE=ChrisH;117911]
                    Originally posted by RyanWarner View Post
                    Every safety regulation that the European drivers have to follow...QUOTE]


                    Ryan,

                    There is actually a lot of room for improvement. I was very dissappointed after recieving my Euro boat to find the entire inside of the boat cut out. You could put all the Kevlar and Carbon in the world but with giant holes in the columing sides below the deck it won't do anything. I would take my 2 sheets of American plywood over this thing anyday.

                    So for all the time the spend in the meetings over there they could do a lot better. My 2 cents.

                    Chris
                    The boat that I purchased was prepared in exactly the same manner. And, I believe that I would be better-off in my Pugh all-wood hydro in the event of an accident. With that said, improvements have been made here and more will come.

                    I do not believe in minimum weights for PRO boats and I am a heavy driver. I also do not feel that we have to mimick everything that UIM does, as it is primarily a European organization.
                    David Weaver

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                    • #11
                      hole in the boat?

                      Chris, do you mean THOSE holes (look picture). But they are very important! Itīs for the case that your engine breaks down and you have to wait aside for the race to finish. You can stow some food or beer in the sides, the cigarettes or a fishing rod so you donīt get bored. Or (much important for the italians) the MOBILE PHONE so you can talk with your wife, your kids, your mamma, the Pope or your crew on the beach.

                      Iīm sorry. I donīt want to joke down such an important topic but this just jumped into my mind when I read your post.

                      See ya!
                      Wenke
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by WenkeF View Post
                        Chris, do you mean THOSE holes (look picture). But they are very important! Itīs for the case that your engine breaks down and you have to wait aside for the race to finish. You can stow some food or beer in the sides, the cigarettes or a fishing rod so you donīt get bored. Or (much important for the italians) the MOBILE PHONE so you can talk with your wife, your kids, your mamma, the Pope or your crew on the beach.

                        Iīm sorry. I donīt want to joke down such an important topic but this just jumped into my mind when I read your post.

                        See ya!
                        Wenke
                        Wenke,

                        You are right! But as a driver of multiple boats I usually bring all my supplies in my driving suit so that I don't have to transfer from boat to boat!

                        It was great meeting you all in Fl. Say Hi to Alex for me.

                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by WenkeF View Post
                          Chris, do you mean THOSE holes (look picture). But they are very important! Itīs for the case that your engine breaks down and you have to wait aside for the race to finish. You can stow some food or beer in the sides, the cigarettes or a fishing rod so you donīt get bored. Or (much important for the italians) the MOBILE PHONE so you can talk with your wife, your kids, your mamma, the Pope or your crew on the beach.

                          Iīm sorry. I donīt want to joke down such an important topic but this just jumped into my mind when I read your post.

                          See ya!
                          Wenke
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                          • #14
                            Bob

                            Guess you will have another world speed record frozen now that minimum weights have been added to the O.125 class !!

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                            • #15
                              Weight and Records

                              Originally posted by Mike Ward View Post
                              Bob

                              Guess you will have another world speed record frozen now that minimum weights have been added to the O.125 class !!
                              I need Eric Pugh here, but would minimum weights make a differnce in setting straighaway records at the distance that UIM/APBA uses?
                              David Weaver

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