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  • 2008 National Meeting Agenda

    I am not sure what version this is.

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    • #3
      I really think the "scale cannot be protested" rule needs to be changed.

      I saw a situation at a race where the battery ran down on the digital scale and it started reading light after working correctly earlier in the day. Racers took advantage of the scale being available before racing and the same scale called them significantly light after the race. A mechanical scale won't do this, but a digital scale can. At that particular race the inspector considered the driver's complaint and checked the scale ... the written rules clearly say the inspector does not have to do this ... the scale was indeed showing light and it was put back on the charger to correct its reading.

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      • #4
        Is there any particular reason behind wanting to change the ages on the 20/ 25 classes? I personally think the current age structure in SO is well thought out and logical. Why does this problem that "ain't broke" all of a sudden "need fixin"?
        -Mike US-1

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        • #5
          Originally posted by jpro60 View Post
          Is there any particular reason behind wanting to change the ages on the 20/ 25 classes? I personally think the current age structure in SO is well thought out and logical. Why does this problem that "ain't broke" all of a sudden "need fixin"?
          -Mike US-1
          Agree with Mike. We don't run a lot of 25 out west, but 20SSH is a great transition from A hydro to C hydro for some of our 14 year olds...maybe, maybe not, heavier 14 year olds. Kind of like transition from J to (by way of AXS) A hydro or runabout.

          Just my two cents on the subject
          Jim

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          • #6
            Those ages should certainly be raised. They were made decades ago. We have always relied on parents making safe decisions for their kids. Fourteen and fifteen year old kids should not be going 65 mph in a race boat!
            Ryan Runne
            9-H
            Wacusee Speedboats
            ryan.runne.4@gmail.com

            "Imagination is more important than knowledge"--Albert Einstein

            These days, I find it easier to look up to my youngers than my elders.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ryan_4z View Post
              Those ages should certainly be raised. They were made decades ago. We have always relied on parents making safe decisions for their kids. Fourteen and fifteen year old kids should not be going 65 mph in a race boat!
              Ryan - you're starting to sound like one of us old farts
              Mike Johnson

              World Headquarters
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              Johnson Racing

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              • #8
                Mike, I wasn't allowed to run 20 or C until I was 16, so no one else should. Is that an immature enough young guys arguement! By the way, I like your sig. quote, I've been a Springsteen fan for many years now. He lives just a few blocks away from my sister in Jersey!
                Ryan Runne
                9-H
                Wacusee Speedboats
                ryan.runne.4@gmail.com

                "Imagination is more important than knowledge"--Albert Einstein

                These days, I find it easier to look up to my youngers than my elders.

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                • #9
                  I didn't run CSH until i was 16...i think i might have ran OSY at 15 (not sure)...20ssh is going fast enough these days to were i could see the age limit go up.

                  Kyle
                  20-R
                  Kyle Bahl
                  20-R

                  "He didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you, he rubbed you, and rubbin' son is racin'!"

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                  • #10
                    Thomas is 15 this year and we thought about putting him in one of the 20 rigs... but then Donny reminded me that we don't have a 200 lb boat for him to make weight.

                    So I'm thinking OSY for the young man. 112 lb in a 70 MPH csh....should be awsome!
                    "Ask anyone, I have no friends. I do have some people that put up with me and mostly because they like the rest of my family"

                    Don Allen

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                    • #11
                      or you could have him a heavy boat built.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by don11w View Post
                        Thomas is 15 this year and we thought about putting him in one of the 20 rigs... but then Donny reminded me that we don't have a 200 lb boat for him to make weight.

                        So I'm thinking OSY for the young man. 112 lb in a 70 MPH csh....should be awsome!
                        Scary, thinking about someone that young and that light racing OSY , but I have seen some great light racers Plus as the APBA rules presently state, a 14 year old can race (SO) JH & JR, AXSR & AXSR, ASH & ASR, (MOD) 200cc Mod H & Mod R, 250cc Mod H & Mod R, and (PRO) KPH, 125cch & 125ccr, 175cch, and CSerH & CSerR.

                        Long story short, I'm not taking a position here, but just stating that their are many options for 14-15 year old racers. I would just hope that parents use discretion when dealing with their children.

                        Heading to Detriot in the morning
                        Jim

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                        • #13
                          So my 15 year old is to heavy for J and same for the "X" classes and for the most part ASH so do I make him sit a year?? he ran 20ssH at a wild cat race this fall and had a blast. he was not fast, for the most part he was a back marker but he DID have fun moving up a class.

                          I know it will take him most of the season to really have the balls to squeeze the trigger around the course, but do you think I"m crazy enough to set him up to go fast and make a mess of his rig yet alone the rest of the field ????

                          a few years ago I found it funny that my oldest son was able to race JH and OSY400 the same day (14 yrs old.) now there a problem there......

                          and for that matter what about the rookie who buys a FEH or DSH that runs fast and is very competitive and (or) gets his nose in the foray or a stupid rookie mistake, and causes a major disaster ??? ask Mr.Fjarlie about that one, I was not there for that one but I heard that WE are **** lucky to still have Craig around.

                          Old school guy
                          94-R

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mrlou40 View Post
                            So my 15 year old is to heavy for J and same for the "X" classes and for the most part ASH so do I make him sit a year??

                            Old school guy
                            94-R
                            No, he just has to run "A" overweight. Sorry Carl, I know what you are saying, but I think you should at least be old enough to drive a car by yourself before you can race a 10' boat at 65 mph. Not that there aren't any 15 year olds that couldn't drive a 20ssH, but, I think the class would be better off with a 16 year old age limit. Some kids may have to run "A" for a couple of years overweight. I don't see anything wrong with that.
                            Ryan Runne
                            9-H
                            Wacusee Speedboats
                            ryan.runne.4@gmail.com

                            "Imagination is more important than knowledge"--Albert Einstein

                            These days, I find it easier to look up to my youngers than my elders.

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                            • #15
                              I am agreeing with Ryan 4z!? wow

                              I have raced for a long time. I started at 15 in D alky hydro. Maybe I was exceptional for my age. Back then in our part of the midwest we had nothing like J's for kids to run. Why would a responsible parent want to rush a young kid into bigger, faster classes until they are really ready? Let them prove over time that they really know how to race. Throwing them to the wolves in a larger class doesn't do much for their confidence either. I'm sure I have seen some families pull out of the sport because the kid didn't progress as fast as Dad wanted.

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