Not Good !!!

[glen wesanko]

the message here is you should all be very very afraid ! Sure worked well for the Bush administration.

[Skoontz]

Rag heads.....When the news actually does let this out, they will say little as to the origin of the person driving the vehicle, because it does not fit thier wacked agenda.... Of what we know for sure about terrorism, with the
exception of Timmothy McVeigh, not all muslims are terrorists, BUT, ALL terrostists are muslims.....It amazes me how anyone with what we know about terroism could call military personel some of the things they do.....Hildoes treatment of General Butreaus (sp) is a prime example, as is Nazi leader John Murtha, as is that scotch dripping woman raping murderer, Ted Hiccup Hiccup Kennedy, as is Harry Reid. Then you got Burag Obama removing the American Flag from his lapel and trying to justify it.....

Thank God we have the military over fighting terrorism before most of it gets to our shores.....And, luckily, they got the van before he used his chemical.... Now if we could only take lessons from the germans and use train cars to move masses of people back south of the boarder, then build a very large wall and a military bases along there, we could begin to take back the country the politicians have whored out.....

[raceright]

Rag heads.....When the news actually does let this out, they will say little as to the origin of the person driving the vehicle, because it does not fit thier wacked agenda.... Of what we know for sure about terrorism, with the
exception of Timmothy McVeigh, not all muslims are terrorists, BUT, ALL terrostists are muslims.....It amazes me how anyone with what we know about terroism could call military personel some of the things they do.....Hildoes treatment of General Butreaus (sp) is a prime example, as is Nazi leader John Murtha, as is that scotch dripping woman raping murderer, Ted Hiccup Hiccup Kennedy, as is Harry Reid. Then you got Burag Obama removing the American Flag from his lapel and trying to justify it.....

Thank God we have the military over fighting terrorism before most of it gets to our shores.....And, luckily, they got the van before he used his chemical.... Now if we could only take lessons from the germans and use train cars to move masses of people back south of the boarder, then build a very large wall and a military bases along there, we could begin to take back the country the politicians have whored out.....

I submit the USA will not make the right decisions reguarding the Terroists
as there realy isn't any terroists. We have a enemy that knows how to hurt us and knows they can not defeat us face to face. Therefore they have some how convinced our goverment and our pansy Liberals that they are terroists and do not repersent a country you bet this is bul---t we will not end this in Iraq or Iran or in the sand we will end it sorry to say after we have been hurt much much more (like maybe when they damage Hollywood or Disney land). who cares why they hate us you cannot befriend hate only destroy it.

Pat Wright

[racer121M]

If I wanted to read a diatribe against whatever you two think is ailing the US I could have gotten on a dozen other sights. I enjoy HR because it deals with a sport that I love. I don't need to be angered by persons of far left or far right persuasions ranting about something that never was. Remember...the van driver hasn't been charged with ANYTHING yet and already the mass hysterical response has blown this all out of proportion. You can bet that if this was a terrorist that the Bush Administration would have jumped on this as further proof of the terrorist threat and used it to prove that the Patriot Act was needed in its unwatered down format. Dan...I thought politics was supposed to be left "at the door" so to speak on HR. I think this thread has gotten out of hand with the last two postings and IMHO ought to be pulled. Just my 2 cents. OK, you all can now rant at me. I'm done.

Bob Hartman
former Capt USAF
313 Tac Airlift Wing 1966-1970

[raceright]

If I wanted to read a diatribe against whatever you two think is ailing the US I could have gotten on a dozen other sights. I enjoy HR because it deals with a sport that I love. I don't need to be angered by persons of far left or far right persuasions ranting about something that never was. Remember...the van driver hasn't been charged with ANYTHING yet and already the mass hysterical response has blown this all out of proportion. You can bet that if this was a terrorist that the Bush Administration would have jumped on this as further proof of the terrorist threat and used it to prove that the Patriot Act was needed in its unwatered down format. Dan...I thought politics was supposed to be left "at the door" so to speak on HR. I think this thread has gotten out of hand with the last two postings and IMHO ought to be pulled. Just my 2 cents. OK, you all can now rant at me. I'm done.

Bob Hartman
former Capt USAF
313 Tac Airlift Wing 1966-1970

Hey Captian you know what is on this thread you can either read it or not but this pitucilar thread is not about Boat racing but about people just like when in the pits at a race us drivers will share our thoughts about many subjects it called freeedom of speech if our ideas are not shared there can be no improvement or change you should know that being from the 60's all the noise that the draft dogers made was the reason Vietnam became the war we gave up on and I for one will open my mouth to try and stop the pansy libarals from doing this again, we were attacked remember. If Dan doesn't want it on his site witch supprisingly has conversation between boat racers very simiular to any gathering of like minded people
he is limited to what he can do and no Politics are not left at the door they are everywhere but there are no Terroists. And yea Rush is to the left of me.
Pat Wright
former Buck Sargent
203rd recon Ist Aviation Brigade 1966 1969 (67 68 vietnam)
Just my 50cents

[ricochet112]

Rag heads.....When the news actually does let this out, they will say little as to the origin of the person driving the vehicle, because it does not fit thier wacked agenda.... Of what we know for sure about terrorism, with the
exception of Timmothy McVeigh, not all muslims are terrorists, BUT, ALL terrostists are muslims.....It amazes me how anyone with what we know about terroism could call military personel some of the things they do.....Hildoes treatment of General Butreaus (sp) is a prime example, as is Nazi leader John Murtha, as is that scotch dripping woman raping murderer, Ted Hiccup Hiccup Kennedy, as is Harry Reid. Then you got Burag Obama removing the American Flag from his lapel and trying to justify it.....

Thank God we have the military over fighting terrorism before most of it gets to our shores.....And, luckily, they got the van before he used his chemical.... Now if we could only take lessons from the germans and use train cars to move masses of people back south of the boarder, then build a very large wall and a military bases along there, we could begin to take back the country the politicians have whored out.....

Straight from your man "W". Have you ever even read the Patriot Act? http://patriotact.com/index.html

SEC. 102. SENSE OF CONGRESS CONDEMNING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST ARAB AND
MUSLIM AMERICANS.

(a) Findings.--Congress makes the following findings:
(1) Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, and Americans from
South Asia play a vital role in our Nation and are entitled to
nothing less than the full rights of every American.
(2) The acts of violence that have been taken against Arab
and Muslim Americans since the September 11, 2001, attacks
against the United States should be and are condemned by all
Americans who value freedom.
(3) The concept of individual responsibility for wrongdoing
is sacrosanct in American society, and applies equally to all
religious, racial, and ethnic groups.
(4) When American citizens commit acts of violence against
those who are, or are perceived to be, of Arab or Muslim
descent, they should be punished to the full extent of the law.
(5) Muslim Americans have become so fearful of harassment
that many Muslim women are changing the way they dress to avoid
becoming targets.
(6) Many Arab Americans and Muslim Americans have acted
heroically during the attacks on the United States, including
Mohammed Salman Hamdani, a 23-year-old New Yorker of Pakistani
descent, who is believed to have gone

[ricochet112]

Hey Captian you know what is on this thread you can either read it or not but this pitucilar thread is not about Boat racing but about people just like when in the pits at a race us drivers will share our thoughts about many subjects it called freeedom of speech if our ideas are not shared there can be no improvement or change you should know that being from the 60's all the noise that the draft dogers made was the reason Vietnam became the war we gave up on and I for one will open my mouth to try and stop the pansy libarals from doing this again, we were attacked remember. If Dan doesn't want it on his site witch supprisingly has conversation between boat racers very simiular to any gathering of like minded people
he is limited to what he can do and no Politics are not left at the door they are everywhere but there are no Terroists. And yea Rush is to the left of me.
Pat Wright
former Buck Sargent
203rd recon Ist Aviation Brigade 1966 1969 (67 68 vietnam)
Just my 50cents

Yes we were attacked, but it was by Saudi Arabia! 15 of the 19 hi-jackers were from Saudi Arabia. Why does no one remember this?! We needed to kick some butt after 9/11, and started to, in Afghanistan, but George got lost on a power and greed trip.

We went to Iraq because "we were told that Saddam had WMD's, but in actuality it was W's personal agenda to assassinate Saddam.

If it was a "real war on terror", the armed forces would have gone to Pakistan after Afghanistan. Unfortunately we're in Iraq because of an abuse of power, it's all about money, power and illegal arms sales, (and a little about oil, that ties into money and power).

We didn't attack Saudi Arabia because the Bush family has a long and seeded history with the royal Saudi family.

http://www.houseofbush.com/reviews.php


http://www.audible.com/adbl/entry/of...BK_SANS_000485

[Skoontz]

liberals just don't get it....

[jeff55v]

Who said this?

I usually prefer not to talk about religion and politics. But what the heck.
(I'm sure I'll regret this.)
I expect this thread to get closed soon anyway.

Who said it?
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Who said it?
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

Who said it?"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

Who said it?"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

Who said it?
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

I could go on, but I think you get the point. It seemed to be a widely accepted fact that we needed to do something about Iraq. But of course, now it's not politically popular to support the war. So, most politicians have flip flopped and left the President out on a limb by himself.

Jeff Yungen
Former U.S.N. CM-2 "Seabee" 1987-1993
NMCB-25 Desert Storm veteran

[ricochet112]

liberals just don't get it....

You didn't answer my question. Have you read the patriot Act? Sec. 102 was straight from the Patriot Act, I wasn't stating my opinion.

If 15 of the 19 hi-jackers were Saudi, why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia?

Only a serious and intelligent reply please.

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw....ism/hr3162.pdf

[ricochet112]

I usually prefer not to talk about religion and politics. But what the heck.
(I'm sure I'll regret this.)
I expect this thread to get closed soon anyway.

Who said it?
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Who said it?
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

Who said it?"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

Who said it?"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

Who said it?
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

I could go on, but I think you get the point. It seemed to be a widely accepted fact that we needed to do something about Iraq. But of course, now it's not politically popular to support the war. So, most politicians have flip flopped and left the President out on a limb by himself.

Jeff Yungen
Former U.S.N. CM-2 "Seabee" 1987-1993
NMCB-25 Desert Storm veteran

YES! This is why we invaded Iraq. Because we thought they had WMD's. Or this is what the administation told the media anyway.

Did we find any WMD's? So why is the occupation of Iraq about terrorism now and not WMD's?

[raceright]

You didn't answer my question. Have you read the patriot Act? Sec. 102 was straight from the Patriot Act, I wasn't stating my opinion.

If 15 of the 19 hi-jackers were Saudi, why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia?

Only a serious and intelligent reply please.

http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw....ism/hr3162.pdf

Well lets see if Muslim's(or what ever you want to call people from this region)
Are true belivers in the USA than anything that we do to that sandy part of the world they should support.
Remember they cut a guy's head off for the world to see,do you believe
they can be reasoned with. WMD's our leaders either found some and there lables said USA George Sr. gift, or we should have found some and labled them from you cousin in Iran. Only way to deal with this part of the world is with Nuke's either now before they Nuke us or after they have nuked us.

Pat