Danica Patrick rumored to be interested in NASCAR

[Leeann]

Danica does look better in a swim suit than either Sam or David L6 however.

Sorry, David, but that's just not true - at least the Sam part

[David_L6]

This opportunity is just TOO good to pass up!

Yeah yeah yeah I start racing tunnel boats when I was 15....

Were ya'll still using hollowed out logs for sponsons way back then or had ya'll progressed to hand-hewn lumber by that time?

....and have been around boat racing almost half my life just like most of the guys here in HR Net. That said we all know boat racers really stretch the truth about how fast Stock Mod Pro and OPC boats really are.

We wouldn't do that, would we?

Kilo's yeah maybe over 100 mph in the larger classes but on an average course I would bet my families life savings that you would be hard pressed to see 100 mph. I have been hearing these high boat racing speeds for over 21 years now

I am not saying that many of you out there have seen the 100 Mph mark but this has got to be a very small group of people.

Bob Wartinger and Sean McKane = 100 + club ( Spelling ? )

I doubt that all that many PRO boats run 100mph now. Will any of the non-capsule classes hit 100mph in a race?

I feel pretty sure that a 700 hydro will. Not too sure about 500 hydro. BTW, what happened to the 700 runabout class?

None of the stock or mod classes will hit 100mph in a race.

Dan, it's spelled McKean.....

[HRTV]

Oh I am sure there are many names that should be added to the list those two guys just happen to come to mind Dan Kirts Gary Pugh etc.. That might be a fun thread to start. "The 100 Mph club"

Im sure there are tons of boat racing legends I am not aware of all though I am probably one of few people on HR today that can say they saw Bill Muncey race in person. Most folks are not aware of this but we had Unlimited Hydro racing right here in Washington, DC on the Potomac river when I was a teenager.

The reagtta was called the Presidents Cup Regatta.

Regatta Info

[David_L6]

Im sure there are tons of boat racing legends I am not aware of all though I am probably one of few people on HR today that can say they saw Bill Muncey race in person.

Count me as one of those few.....

Most folks are not aware of this but we had Unlimited Hydro racing right here in Washington, DC on the Potomac river when I was a teenager.

The reagtta was called the Presidents Cup Regatta.

They sure did! I was at that race in either '70 or '71. I think it was 1970. It was the year that the Pride of Pay'N Pack was running two V-8's.

[Bill Huson]

Count me in!

I saw Bill Muncie race on the Phew-tomac. I also witnessed Black Sunday at the President's Cup Regatta.

Can I be in the 100 MPH club? Pegged the speedo on my `58 Plymouth ragtop, 120+, and I busted a ton on a 250cc Kawasaki 2-stroke triple a few times, and my 550cc Suzuki, and my kids Yamahonker FZR 700. Won't see 100 on the Harley, downhill runs ain't steep enough, and I'd need a Cat 3 huricaine tailwind push even then.

[HRTV]

Check this one out 1938! Team Rossi was in DC racing wow! All the way from Europe in 1938 it must have taken them a month to get here by steam boat

1938 President’s Cup Regatta
Potomac River, Washington, DC, September 23-24, 1938

President's Cup Regatta

One Man in a Boat
President's Cup Regatta
Somehow the weather man got confused in apportioning the weather for the two week-ends assigned to the President's Cup Regatta. He dealt out light, baffling winds and smooth water to the sailing craft and three days of blue skies and a fine sailing breeze to the motor boat racers. Too much breeze, in fact, on the first day of the meet, which was devoted to the outboard hydroplanes, for the fields were reduced by the rough water.

The two bright stars of the first day, September 23rd, were James Mullen, last year's intercollegiate champion, who cleaned up in Classes B and C, amateur, and Class F, open, and Thom Cooper, of Kansas City, who won in Classes A and B, professional, and finished well up in Class C and in the open Class F event. Although it was rough, there was only one boat capsized, Charles Blake turning a somersault in the first heat of the Class C professional race.

Saturday morning was allotted to mile trials and Jack Cooper, of Kansas City, drove his "225" Tops II over the mile and boosted his own world's record to 75.393 miles per hour. After this fine performance, while heading back to the navy yard, a heavy piece of driftwood wrecked shaft, strut and propeller, putting the boat out of the day's racing.

There were fourteen races scheduled for the day, the 91and 135-cubic-inch boats being sent away together and all the inboard runabout classes, except E and K, being lumped together. This made a class of ten racing together instead of several uninteresting duels. The "225's" turned out only a few boats for the national championship but put up some fairly lively racing. In the first heat, Gibson Bradfield's Bad News led until close to the finish when she burned off all her ignition wiring. After that, she ran without hatch covers and, from the middle of each heat on, trailed a cloud of smoke from her engine. George Schrafft's Chrissie II won.

The first heat of the President's Cup race was scheduled for this day. This year the only starter was Alagi, not a single American racer appearing to dispute the Italian's supremacy. Rossi had only to go over the course, but he did so at high speed, turning in a time of 13:26.2 for the fifteen miles, an average speed of 66.981 m.p.h., with one lap at 68.285, both new records for the course.

Sunday was another fine day, with time trials in the morning. David Gerli's Lady Gen III pushed the Class I inboard runabout record from 51.432 m.p.h., which she made last year, up to 51.740. Ja-Bo II, owned by Robert Gambrall, of Havre de Grace, raised the Class D mark to 44.72,3 from the 1937 figure of 36.942 made at Red Bank by Edison Hedges' Senator. Joseph Monigle's Joe Don boosted the Class C record to 44.018.

In the afternoon, there were two races for outboard runabouts and two for inboards, the 4-Litre championships, a ladies' free-for-all and the American Speed Boat Championship. And the two final heats for the President's Cup. At the banquet on Saturday night, Rossi objected to receiving the President's Cup without any competition and a handicap race was arranged with the "225's." So five of them were sent away and Alagi was given a starting gun a minute and fifty seconds later. By that time, the leaders were well around on the first lap and Rossi had a task to catch them in the fifteen miles of the course. As Rossi said over the radio later: "They figure the handicap too close. I had to go all wide open to catch them." But the Italian boat, running beautifully, gradually cut down the field, catching Miss Manteo II only a few yards from the finish and going like a scared cat. She covered the course at an average speed of 69.675 miles an hour, doing one lap at a 70.866-mile pace. Both of these figures are records for the course and the 15-mile figure is faster than any boat of her class has traveled in a race either in this country or abroad.

Another competitive record was set in the Class K race, J. W. Bramble's Pep IV covering the five miles at an average speed of 55.249 m.p.h.

The summaries follow:

PRESIDENT'S CUP REGATTA
Washington, D. C.,
September 23rd to 25th

Outboards, Class A, Amateur. Arthur Wullschleger, Larchmont, N.Y., 800; James W. Mullen, II, Richmond, Va., 600; Frank Desmond, Short Hills, N. J., 450.

Outboards, Class A, Professional. Thom Cooper, Kansas City, Mo., 800; Fred Jacoby, Jr., North Bergen, N. J., 600; Morton Daller, Claymont, Del., 450.

Outboards, Class B, Amateur. Mullen, 700; Wullschleger, 700; Vic. Scott, Forest Hills, L. I., 450.

Outboards, Class B, Professional. Jacoby, 800; Cooper, 600; Conrad B. Ernst, Washington, D. C., 225.

Outboards, Class C, Amateur. Mullen, 800; Mel Smith, Rougemont, Canada, 450; Gerard Sheeran, Brooklyn, 300.

Outboards, Class C, Professional. Cooper, 800; Frank Schmutz, Merchantville, N. J., 469; Jacoby, 450.

Outboards, Midget, Open. Daller, 400; Betty Defibaugh, Woodside, Del., 300; H. C. Defibaugh, Woodside, Del., 225.

Outboards, Class F, Open. Mullen, 800; Cooper, 600; Smith, 296.

[HRTV]

Check this one out 1938! Team Rossi was in DC racing wow! All the way from Europe in 1938 it must have taken them a month to get here by steam boat

1938 President’s Cup Regatta
Potomac River, Washington, DC, September 23-24, 1938

President's Cup Regatta

One Man in a Boat
President's Cup Regatta
Somehow the weather man got confused in apportioning the weather for the two week-ends assigned to the President's Cup Regatta. He dealt out light, baffling winds and smooth water to the sailing craft and three days of blue skies and a fine sailing breeze to the motor boat racers. Too much breeze, in fact, on the first day of the meet, which was devoted to the outboard hydroplanes, for the fields were reduced by the rough water.

The two bright stars of the first day, September 23rd, were James Mullen, last year's intercollegiate champion, who cleaned up in Classes B and C, amateur, and Class F, open, and Thom Cooper, of Kansas City, who won in Classes A and B, professional, and finished well up in Class C and in the open Class F event. Although it was rough, there was only one boat capsized, Charles Blake turning a somersault in the first heat of the Class C professional race.

Saturday morning was allotted to mile trials and Jack Cooper, of Kansas City, drove his "225" Tops II over the mile and boosted his own world's record to 75.393 miles per hour. After this fine performance, while heading back to the navy yard, a heavy piece of driftwood wrecked shaft, strut and propeller, putting the boat out of the day's racing.

There were fourteen races scheduled for the day, the 91and 135-cubic-inch boats being sent away together and all the inboard runabout classes, except E and K, being lumped together. This made a class of ten racing together instead of several uninteresting duels. The "225's" turned out only a few boats for the national championship but put up some fairly lively racing. In the first heat, Gibson Bradfield's Bad News led until close to the finish when she burned off all her ignition wiring. After that, she ran without hatch covers and, from the middle of each heat on, trailed a cloud of smoke from her engine. George Schrafft's Chrissie II won.

The first heat of the President's Cup race was scheduled for this day. This year the only starter was Alagi, not a single American racer appearing to dispute the Italian's supremacy. Rossi had only to go over the course, but he did so at high speed, turning in a time of 13:26.2 for the fifteen miles, an average speed of 66.981 m.p.h., with one lap at 68.285, both new records for the course.

Sunday was another fine day, with time trials in the morning. David Gerli's Lady Gen III pushed the Class I inboard runabout record from 51.432 m.p.h., which she made last year, up to 51.740. Ja-Bo II, owned by Robert Gambrall, of Havre de Grace, raised the Class D mark to 44.72,3 from the 1937 figure of 36.942 made at Red Bank by Edison Hedges' Senator. Joseph Monigle's Joe Don boosted the Class C record to 44.018.

In the afternoon, there were two races for outboard runabouts and two for inboards, the 4-Litre championships, a ladies' free-for-all and the American Speed Boat Championship. And the two final heats for the President's Cup. At the banquet on Saturday night, Rossi objected to receiving the President's Cup without any competition and a handicap race was arranged with the "225's." So five of them were sent away and Alagi was given a starting gun a minute and fifty seconds later. By that time, the leaders were well around on the first lap and Rossi had a task to catch them in the fifteen miles of the course. As Rossi said over the radio later: "They figure the handicap too close. I had to go all wide open to catch them." But the Italian boat, running beautifully, gradually cut down the field, catching Miss Manteo II only a few yards from the finish and going like a scared cat. She covered the course at an average speed of 69.675 miles an hour, doing one lap at a 70.866-mile pace. Both of these figures are records for the course and the 15-mile figure is faster than any boat of her class has traveled in a race either in this country or abroad.

Another competitive record was set in the Class K race, J. W. Bramble's Pep IV covering the five miles at an average speed of 55.249 m.p.h.

The summaries follow:

PRESIDENT'S CUP REGATTA
Washington, D. C.,
September 23rd to 25th

Outboards, Class A, Amateur. Arthur Wullschleger, Larchmont, N.Y., 800; James W. Mullen, II, Richmond, Va., 600; Frank Desmond, Short Hills, N. J., 450.

Outboards, Class A, Professional. Thom Cooper, Kansas City, Mo., 800; Fred Jacoby, Jr., North Bergen, N. J., 600; Morton Daller, Claymont, Del., 450.

Outboards, Class B, Amateur. Mullen, 700; Wullschleger, 700; Vic. Scott, Forest Hills, L. I., 450.

Outboards, Class B, Professional. Jacoby, 800; Cooper, 600; Conrad B. Ernst, Washington, D. C., 225.

Outboards, Class C, Amateur. Mullen, 800; Mel Smith, Rougemont, Canada, 450; Gerard Sheeran, Brooklyn, 300.

Outboards, Class C, Professional. Cooper, 800; Frank Schmutz, Merchantville, N. J., 469; Jacoby, 450.

Outboards, Midget, Open. Daller, 400; Betty Defibaugh, Woodside, Del., 300; H. C. Defibaugh, Woodside, Del., 225.

Outboards, Class F, Open. Mullen, 800; Cooper, 600; Smith, 296.

Holy crap I am turning into Ron Hill all I need is a rocking chair and a old wool sweater

[Bill Huson]

Mullen ???

I wonder if the Mullen of yesteryear racing was related to the Mullens who have graced Region 4 in modern times?

[HRTV]

I wonder if the Mullen of yesteryear racing was related to the Mullens who have graced Region 4 in modern times?

Hey Bill check this out, I know Bill Moore. And I thought you were the real Carpet Bagger

Bill Moore

[Bill Huson]

Nah . . .

I picked up the nick "carpetbagger" shortly after I arrived at a small college in Western NC. The Johnny Rebs started in with the "Whar you from, boy" crap. Pick a year, sez me, child of a Navy pilot who lived out of moving boxes for a large part of my childhood, not to mention this was my third college in as many states. Johnny Rebs took all that in and determined that I had been born in New York. "You a dang carpetbagger," they declared. Instant nick. A few months later my father arrived on campus (student pop ~ 1200) and was unable to find me for several hours because very few students knew my real name.

[David Weaver]

Well let me tell you....

1) I attended the unlimited races in D.C. in the 1970's, as my dad was the region 4 chairman (plus it was just kool).

2) I met Bill Muncey in Hampton, VA shortly before he was killed racing in Mexico. He spoke at a special event or a region meeting at the Chamberlain Hotel (next to where the inboards still race).

3) I like Sam enough to lend him a propeller, but still rank Danica ahead of him for the swim suit competition. But I doubt that she could rig a fancy Mod E runabout.

4) GPS on my 250H has shown 94+ a couple of different times, including competition. Once it showed 150, but we will assume that might have been questionable reading. Of course, no open PRO boat exceeds 99 mph in competition (in case big brother is watching and contemplating capsules for more classes). On a mile or 1.25 mile course 100mph in a PRO boat is readily approachable. The old 1 2/3 250H record was over 90 mph. The 500cc H (pre capsule) was over 100 mph.

5) Dan, come to Raleigh in October and we can get you some on water education!!

[Leeann]

3) I like Sam enough to lend him a propeller, but still rank Danica ahead of him for the swim suit competition. But I doubt that she could rig a fancy Mod E runabout.

ROTFLMAO




...by the way, thanks for that prop

[Bill Huson]

swimsuits?

Danica inna swimsuit - preferably a itsy-bitsy bikini = RRROOOWWWRRR

Sam inna swimsuit =

Could be worse - Buddy Winemiller at the Nats in his speedo